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AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Don't you find the timing of them suddenly allowing emulators suspicious? If it weren't for that alt app store, would the U.S. app store have emulators at all?

Not a chance. This is Apple making their users stick with the App Store as their only store.

In other words, another example of competitive pressure forcing a company to actually try and win over consumers.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Why is it not available in the EU? Is this just the Delta developer wanting to promote/push people to their App Store, or is there some other reason e.g. Apple don’t allow the app in the EU? I’m a bit confused why it would be on alternative store at all, if Apple now allow these apps… can someone ELI5? (I’m in the UK so can download from the App Store, finally a benefit of you-know-what lol)

I think they cannot put it on both stores per Apple rules. And since the Delta developer is the same person as the Alt Store developer he chose to put it on his own store.

FWIW You can put it on both stores.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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You're forgetting Installer.app, which predated Cydia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Installer.app

(I'd argue that wasn't a "store".)

In what sense? Testing my memory here, but it let you install stuff from various developers. Cydia cranked things up several notches (thanks for that, by the way), but are they both not "stores"?

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Have you been abroad since before June 23rd 2016?

Yes, but I think the post-brexit transition phase tricked me into believing the change wouldn’t be this drastic. Sigh.

Fun fact: "British citizens had their .eu domains suspended on 1 January 2021 for three months, and then deleted on 1 March 2021 after a grace period to allow EU/EEA citizens to update the registration information to show their non-UK address."

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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I see! I guess I don’t understand why the developer would bother with their own store if the App Store now allows emulators, and the Delta app is free - but I guess this was only a recent change, maybe allowed by Apple purely as a way to try to stop people going to alt stores? I guess maybe the developer feels it’s their duty to follow the alt store thing through to keep pressure on Apple? Or maybe they stand to make…

> why the developer would bother with their own store if the App Store now allows emulators The keyword is now allows emulators. They didn't allow it 3 weeks ago. Or a year ago. Or 10 years ago. Only now , with alternative stores launching and offering this, Apple has finally allowed emulators. Perhaps the developer doesn't want to be beholden to Apple's whims? Especially after investing a lot of effort into setting…

Could you point at what part of the old rules was forbidding emulators?

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Hmm, my Apple ID is set to the UK, i paid using a UK card (Monzo), whilst connected to my home VPN (tunnelled) but currently abroad on holiday in Asia and it’s telling me I need to physically be in the EU to install it…

You need a faraday cage and a GPS spoof.

Farage cage maybe?

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Have you forgotten...brexit? We no longer get to enjoy the benefits of the EU.

To be honest, after the vote I didn’t really keep up as I thought (hoped) real change would take ages to kick in. Guess we’re finally, actually out. Will request a refund.

The vote was eight years ago. Brexit is already going to school and knows how to read and write.

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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(I'd argue that wasn't a "store".)

In what sense? Testing my memory here, but it let you install stuff from various developers. Cydia cranked things up several notches (thanks for that, by the way), but are they both not "stores"?

I guess, to me, the defining characteristic of a "store" is that you can buy things at a store... it just feels awkward to say that a store is just a place that has things and lets you get them on request ;P.

AppTapp Installer was merely a package manager, and they did not implement any store functionality. FWIW, in Cydia's case, I didn't launch "Cydia Store" until about a year after I launched "Cydia Installer".

(AppTapp also wasn't the first package manager for the iPhone, but maybe it was the first one on-device? The one I had used involved USB and some web page I think, but I am forgetting the name.)

Re: AltStore PAL, the first alternative app marketplace on iPhone, is available now

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Love the 'PAL' reference - just like how many in North America were pining for the PAL video standard (initially Europe but later entire world except North America) but we were stuck with NTSC (and doubled down).

Really? As someone who grew up with PAL, we were pining for your 60fps NTSC output, especially in fast games like beatem-ups etc (PAL is 50). I still remember the first time I saw an imported Japanese PS1 playing Teken 2, and how much smoother it looked on NTSC. I could never look at my PAL copy the same way again, I couldn't unsee the NTSC version. For me personally, those extra 10 frames trump the extra 100 scanlin…

Exactly. I remember that many PAL PS2 games at the time had big black bars at the top and the bottom, and as a result a distorted image overall. The video game experience was not great for PAL gamers at the time because most developers made bad PAL ports. Most gamers wanted undistorted images and 60fps, which was solved when we came to the PS3/360 era with digital output via HDMI and newer flat screen TVs.
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