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Re: Mixtral 8x22B

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Pricing? Found it: https://mistral.ai/technology/#pricing It'd useful to add a link to the blog post. While it's an open model, most will only be able to use it via the API.

That looks expensive compared to what groq was offering: https://wow.groq.com/

Can't wait for 8x22B to make it to Groq! Having an LLM at near GPT-4 performance with Groq speed would be incredible, especially for real-time voice chat.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#122

It feels absolutely amazing to build an AI startup right now. It's as if your product automatically becomes cheaper, more reliable, and more scalable with each new major model release. - We first struggled with limited context windows [solved] - We had issues with consistent JSON ouput [solved] - We had rate limiting and performance issues for the large 3rd party models [solved] - Hosting our own OSS models for small…

If you don't mind, I'm trying to experiment w/ local models more. Just now getting into messing w/ these but I'm struggling to come up w/ good use cases. Would you happen to know of any cool OSS model projects that might be good inspiration for a side project? Wondering what most people use these local models for

No ideas about side projects or anything "productive" but for a concrete example look at SillyTavern. Making fictional characters. Finding narratives, stories, role-play for tabletop games. You can even have group chats of AI characters interacting. No good use cases for profit but plenty right now for exploration and fun.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#123

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You can't upgrade it? Edit: I haven't owned a laptop for years, probably could have surmised they'd be more user hostile nowadays.

Everything is soldered in these days. It's complete garbage. And most of the other vendors just copy Apple so even things like Lenovo have the same problems. The current state of laptops is such trash

> most of the other vendors just copy Apple

Weird conspiracy theories aside, the low power variant of RAM (LPDDR) has to be soldered onto the motherboard, so laptops designed for longer battery life have been using it for years now.

The good news is that a newer variant of low power RAM has just been standardized that features low power RAM in memory modules, although they attach with screws and not clips.

https://fossbytes.com/camm2-ram-standard/

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#124

First test I tried to run a random taxation question through it Output: https://gist.github.com/IAmStoxe/7fb224225ff13b1902b6d172467... Within the first paragraph, it outputs: > GET AN ESSAY WRITTEN FOR YOU FROM AS LOW AS $13/PAGE Thought that was hilarious.

Looks like an issue with the quantization that ollama (i.e llama.cpp) uses and not the model itself. It's common knowledge from Mixtral 8x7B that quantizing the MoE gates is pernicious to model perplexity. And yet they continue to do it. :)

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#125
post #119

First test I tried to run a random taxation question through it Output: https://gist.github.com/IAmStoxe/7fb224225ff13b1902b6d172467... Within the first paragraph, it outputs: > GET AN ESSAY WRITTEN FOR YOU FROM AS LOW AS $13/PAGE Thought that was hilarious.

That's not the model this post is about. You used the base model, not trained for tasks. (The instruct model is probably not on ollama yet.)

I absolutely did not:

ollama run mixtral:8x22b

EDIT: I like how you ninja-editted your comment ;)

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#126

First test I tried to run a random taxation question through it Output: https://gist.github.com/IAmStoxe/7fb224225ff13b1902b6d172467... Within the first paragraph, it outputs: > GET AN ESSAY WRITTEN FOR YOU FROM AS LOW AS $13/PAGE Thought that was hilarious.

Looks like an issue with the quantization that ollama (i.e llama.cpp) uses and not the model itself. It's common knowledge from Mixtral 8x7B that quantizing the MoE gates is pernicious to model perplexity. And yet they continue to do it. :)

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Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#127

It feels absolutely amazing to build an AI startup right now. It's as if your product automatically becomes cheaper, more reliable, and more scalable with each new major model release. - We first struggled with limited context windows [solved] - We had issues with consistent JSON ouput [solved] - We had rate limiting and performance issues for the large 3rd party models [solved] - Hosting our own OSS models for small…

The progress is insane. A few days ago I started being very impressed with LLM coding skills. I wanted Golang code, instead of Python, which you can see in many demos. The prompt was:

Write a Golang func, which accepts the path into a .gpx file and outputs a JSON string with points(x=tolal distance in km, y=elevation). Don't use any library.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#128
post #119

First test I tried to run a random taxation question through it Output: https://gist.github.com/IAmStoxe/7fb224225ff13b1902b6d172467... Within the first paragraph, it outputs: > GET AN ESSAY WRITTEN FOR YOU FROM AS LOW AS $13/PAGE Thought that was hilarious.

That's not the model this post is about. You used the base model, not trained for tasks. (The instruct model is probably not on ollama yet.)

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Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#129
post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the model this post is about. You used the base model, not trained for tasks. (The instruct model is probably not on ollama yet.)

I absolutely did not: ollama run mixtral:8x22b EDIT: I like how you ninja-editted your comment ;)

Considering "mixtral:8x22b" on ollama was last updated yesterday, and Mixtral-8x22B-Instruct-v0.1 (the topic of this post) was released about 2 hours ago, they are not the same model.

Re: Mixtral 8x22B

#130
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This is a bit of a misnomer. Each expert is a sub network that specializes in sub understanding we can't possibly track. During training a routing network is punished if it does not evenly distribute training tokens to the correct experts. This prevents any one or two networks from becoming the primary networks. The result of this is that each token has essentially even probability of being routed to one of the sub m…

Has anyone tried MoE at smaller scales? e.g. a 7B model that's made of a bunch of smaller ones? I guess that would be 8x1B. Or would that make each expert too small to be useful? TinyLlama is 1B and it's almost useful! I guess 8x1B would be Mixture of TinyLLaMAs...

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