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Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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post #70

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> Anyone who doesn’t do everything in their power to avoid adverts is part of the problem. Says everybody until they are wanting to advertise their own product.

I'm still not sure the excessive 15x same advert method increases your chances.

If it didn't work they wouldn't do it (and when it stops working they will find something else). Advertising is pretty insidious. I have been adblocking most things for over a decade now and thought I was mostly saving myself from annoyance and wasted time, but in the last 4-5 years in youtube video ads from creators themselves showed up. I only discovered sponsorblock last year so I've only been using it for around a year and it's interesting to see my own unnoticed positive biases to brands where the advertising was previously sneaking through just melt away. Now when I watch a video that is too new or obscure for someone to have marked the ads with sponsorblock I am back to getting annoyed and wondering why I ever thought positive thoughts about this brand in the first place. If this stuff is having this effect on me (highly disagreeable personality, above average but not genius level intelligence, made a living trading commodities calling bullshit on the concensus opinion) then the rest of the world must be screwed.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

#122
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still not sure the excessive 15x same advert method increases your chances.

If it didn't work they wouldn't do it (and when it stops working they will find something else). Advertising is pretty insidious. I have been adblocking most things for over a decade now and thought I was mostly saving myself from annoyance and wasted time, but in the last 4-5 years in youtube video ads from creators themselves showed up. I only discovered sponsorblock last year so I've only been using it for around…

> If it didn't work they wouldn't do it

You're assuming that most companies have decent metrics.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyone who doesn’t do everything in their power to avoid adverts is part of the problem. Says everybody until they are wanting to advertise their own product.

I'm still not sure the excessive 15x same advert method increases your chances.

Hey, I've only dropped a couple products so far because their commercials annoyed me.

...because most of the rest were for products I already wasn't using.

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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post #36

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> Are you earning a living doing something you would be proud to tell your grandchildren about? No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren.

> No, they're probably earning a fortune they'll be proud to pass down to their grandchildren. Still a drop in the bucket compared to the billionaires being minted semimonthly through combination lottery games, though at least in both cases not a cent of the fortunes being passed to grandchildren came from me. actually you could argue that the people who did absolutely nothing for society in return for the assurance…

I'm certainly not defending them, just pointing out that we should criticize them accurately. Not because their work is hollow and soulless (which is more true for those of us who actually have to continue to work to survive), but because it's evil and parasitic, as you say!

Re: Roku files patent to inject ads via HDMI

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post #61

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For the rest of the tale, I recommend you follow the stock symbol "ORCL" on the NYSE. Rather curious that Mr. Ellison owns an island in a volcanic archipelago, isn't it?

Speaking of which, the one question I've always wanted to ask bcantrill is if he meant to say "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Oracle" when he said "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison." On purpose or not it was a great sentence, but if it were premeditated, that only makes it better.

> if he meant to say "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Oracle" when he said "Don't make the mistake of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison."

Perhaps not that exact phrasing, but I'd say he said both; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m - I have it in my quotes file as

> You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn, you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' -- lawnmower doesn't give a shit about you, lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don't fall into that trap about Oracle.

and a bit later,

> Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison

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