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Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by bombcar »

causality0 wrote: post #120
ryukoposting wrote: post #73

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As someone who was exposed to 4chan at far too young of an age, I don't buy this. There's no political philisophy happening on /pol/, nor has there ever been. Granted, I avoided that board like the plague, but cursory glances never showed me any novel ideas being formulated. Even if there is real conversation of various political ideologies, it's drowned out by a sea of kids who think it's cool to say the N word onli…

It's absolutely baffling to me that despite the sheer amount of garbage, people still choose to post non-garbage content there at all. You sort through a hundred neo-nazi and race-baiting posts and then you find news that happened less than thirty seconds ago and won't be on CNN for two hours. I wish these "insiders" would find a better place share their information.

It's the very fact that it's unmoderated that it can be unfiltered.

If you happen to get footage of a "happening" and post it on 4chan, people will notice (and call you various slurs).

If you post it anywhere else it's liable to be deleted, or worse, ignored.

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Post by kevinventullo »

_heimdall wrote: post #68
silverquiet wrote: post #63

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> In some ways America’s short memory is a strength. It keeps us from getting caught up in stupid ancient conflicts like the Middle East. America tends to at least mostly move on. But it also means we walk around in this perpetual fugue state not understanding why anything is happening. I recently heard that depressed people are unable to habituate to things. I think I might be very depressed because I was never able…

Defining crazy is a weird thing. Most people don't hear voices in their head (unless its chalked up to a religious experience), so hearing voices is on the list of things that make one "crazy." If its all about what is normal, actually caring about the things you mentioned are indeed crazy. Growing your own food, or even knowing where your food comes from, is then also crazy. Ironically, not taking any prescription p…

Ironically, not taking any prescription pills is also on the list of taking crazy pills, as I think the last stat I saw was that something like 70% of Americans are on at least one prescription drug

Psychological drugs specifically? I imagine the bulk of these are people managing their cholesterol or something.

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by bombcar »

kevindamm wrote: post #107
sen_armstrong wrote: post #91

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I wouldn't bet much on KYM's provenance research. Memes spread so far so fast on the information superhighway, those that started on some Korean photography forum or Russian anime newsgroup, you'd never know if you weren't there ... or know where to look. KYM often cites 4chan because it's popular, in English, and well-archived (ironic indeed) and KYM editors will take the earliest hit from the third-party archives a…

Thanks for your reply and examples, very informative. I agree it's an awful metric but seemed it might hold water when I first typed it. Full disclosure, I have never actually visited 4chan despite ample opportunity.

This is exactly why it's so famous; everyone knows of it but is scared to visit (or admit they visit) so it's a perfect "source of anything".

(This post originated on 4chan)

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by _heimdall »

kevinventullo wrote: post #122
_heimdall wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defining crazy is a weird thing. Most people don't hear voices in their head (unless its chalked up to a religious experience), so hearing voices is on the list of things that make one "crazy." If its all about what is normal, actually caring about the things you mentioned are indeed crazy. Growing your own food, or even knowing where your food comes from, is then also crazy. Ironically, not taking any prescription p…

Ironically, not taking any prescription pills is also on the list of taking crazy pills, as I think the last stat I saw was that something like 70% of Americans are on at least one prescription drug Psychological drugs specifically? I imagine the bulk of these are people managing their cholesterol or something.

Oh no I may have phrased that poorly. I used "crazy pills" there in reference to the GP comment, definitely not as a reference to psych medications.

I don't have the stats handy though I do remember psych meds being a high proportion of those on prescription drugs.

The even more interesting/concerning (IMO) related stat is that the US military recently released a report that 77% (going off memory here, if that's not exact it was very close) of 18-24 year olds wouldn't be deemed fit for service and a majority of that was related to psych med prescriptions. Nothing wrong at all with taking those meds when they are needed, just an insight into how many younger people couldn't enlist due only to that rule.

Re: Blue Ball Machine

#126

Post by sabellito »

defrost wrote: post #45
sabellito wrote: post #41

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My favourite: https://krullraves.ytmnd.com/ Still know the URL by heart.

Might be worth chasing up a decent quality version of Simon Pegg | Edgar Wright's Spaced S01E06 Epiphanies club scene - it's only for UK hard core ravers.

Didn't find a lot of connection between my link and that, but it was a great watch nevertheless.

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by zen928 »

adamrezich wrote: post #119
munificent wrote: post #118

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The term "alternative right" was coined by its own members to describe themselves, starting with Richard Spencer's "The Alternative Right".

Is everyone—or even most of everyone—tarred by the "alt-right" label a Richard Spencer follower/supporter/endorser? If not, then would they self -describe at "alt-right", still , in 2024? If not, then why would the term apply to them?

The top post was their historical recount about how the alt-right presence on 4chan and makes no specification or claims to maintaining this label for these groups of people in 2024, so this tirade seems like a nonsequitur. But don't worry, we have new names for these people now :)

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by ryukoposting »

causality0 wrote: post #120
ryukoposting wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who was exposed to 4chan at far too young of an age, I don't buy this. There's no political philisophy happening on /pol/, nor has there ever been. Granted, I avoided that board like the plague, but cursory glances never showed me any novel ideas being formulated. Even if there is real conversation of various political ideologies, it's drowned out by a sea of kids who think it's cool to say the N word onli…

It's absolutely baffling to me that despite the sheer amount of garbage, people still choose to post non-garbage content there at all. You sort through a hundred neo-nazi and race-baiting posts and then you find news that happened less than thirty seconds ago and won't be on CNN for two hours. I wish these "insiders" would find a better place share their information.

There is no voting system by which to gauge one's popularity. There is no profile or personal brand to be crafted. There is no follower count to build. Post ranking is most-recent-reply first, and nothing more.

This model attracts all manner of idiocy and hatred, and it's much too easy for one provocateur to hijack the system. The result is that the site requires several containment zones like /b/ and /pol/.

However, the upshot of 4chan (or any imageboard, really) is the total lack of narcissistic incentive. If you stick to blue boards, consciously avoid the containment zones, and you ignore the provocateurs (big IFs, I know), 4chan hosts some remarkably eclectic discussion of the arts, science, and entertainment. It's really good at elevating things that are thought-provoking or avant garde, if only within the bounds of a polarizing and inaccessible platform.

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by carlosjobim »

mauvehaus wrote: post #64
codingdave wrote: post #62

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I think you are underestimating the reach of TV before the internet.

For better or worse, TV is paid for by advertisers. On the upside, that does put some limits on how objectionable the content can be before nobody's willing to pay for its distribution.

I remember TV from my childhood being just people shooting each other and screaming at each other. Advertisers didn't have any problem with that, or with monsters tearing people apart or with gangster rap.

Re: Blue Ball Machine

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Post by adamrezich »

zen928 wrote: post #127
adamrezich wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is everyone—or even most of everyone—tarred by the "alt-right" label a Richard Spencer follower/supporter/endorser? If not, then would they self -describe at "alt-right", still , in 2024? If not, then why would the term apply to them?

The top post was their historical recount about how the alt-right presence on 4chan and makes no specification or claims to maintaining this label for these groups of people in 2024, so this tirade seems like a nonsequitur. But don't worry, we have new names for these people now :)

Whatever the intent of the phrase "I see that the alt-right came out of 4chan" was—whether it was intended to mean "the alt-right, which is still a prevailing thing thing that exists today, came out of 4chan", or "the alt-right, which is a now-defunct term/ideology/movement, came out of 4chan"—it's incorrect either way.

And I'm well aware that "you" (plural) have all sorts of new blanket terms to tar disconnected groups of people and their thoughts with, so as to lump them together, so as to subdue any kind of thinking that exists outside of that prescribed by corporate media and the entrenched political class, by equating any dissident thought or position with that of the most vulgar individuals within the meta-group "you" (plural) created, by associating disparate individuals and small groups of people together using an emotionally-loaded label—regardless of whether or not its constituents agree with said labeling, which they don't have any say in, of course, because "you" (plural) have the in-group consensus of the general public on your side, which is informed top-down by the corporate media and entrenched political class.

But it's nevertheless interesting and amusing both that the "stickiest" one is—still to this day—one that was coined by an ultimately exceedingly minor and uninfluential figure, nearly a decade ago now, and that it's still wielded to this day by conformists with exceedingly simple-minded worldviews who see no problem boiling things down to "people who uncritically accept the social consensus" ("good people") and "people who are willing to entertain any sort of thought outside of the social consensus" ("bad people"—"alt-right", or whatever new terms "you" (plural) have concocted).

At least it's kind of nice to see that you tacitly admit to pursuing such a goal, in continuing to invent new terms for the same tired purpose.

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