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FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

The government's sentencing memorandum and exhibits, including SBF tweets and other statements by the defendant:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.59...

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by infecto »

maxbond wrote: post #118
infecto wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, leave only an accusation without supporting facts or ideas.

Just ask nicely. "Could you provide a source for that claim?" No one is owed a citation in casual conversation; you're not holding them to an agreed upon standard, you're asking for a favor. So it's better to be polite and not escalate from a conversation to a debate or argument.

Sorry no. If you are going to share an opinion at least share why instead of saying “multitude of reasons”. It’s like any other low effort comment that adds nothing.

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by infecto »

greedo wrote: post #61
infecto wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, leave only an accusation without supporting facts or ideas.

Sorry, I stopped being a "citations needed" responder a while ago. You can google for it pretty easily. TLDR, Lewis has been very friendly with everyone he writes about. Whether it's SBF or Tuohys from The Blind Side, he's shown a lack of objectivity, to put it mildly.

Sorry I stopped being a low effort comment kind of person. You shared an opinion, it’s not up to me to google it because your perspective is different than what might be found in a google search. If you don’t have interest in sharing your opinion don’t post a low quality comment.

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

#124

Post by infecto »

loeg wrote: post #42
infecto wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, leave only an accusation without supporting facts or ideas.

Just the first google result but anyone paying any attention is familiar with how stupid the Lewis story around SBF is: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/how-michael-lewis-go... There are myriad other extremely easy to find criticisms of this particular Lewis book (and of his other books, too).

I am full aware of what some of the commentary was and have read the book myself. I don’t like SBF and I am not the fan of most of the books written by Lewis. I just expect more quality from a comment here, if you dont want to share the “multitude of reasons”, dont make the comment. Easy.

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by bitcharmer »

melling wrote: post #30
NegativeLatency wrote: post #28

Hard to square with the lack of consequences (for those responsible) for the 2009 financial crisis.

Can you be more specific about those responsible?

Are you trolling? You think it happened by accident?

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by kylecazar »

xeornet wrote: post #107
kylecazar wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely not the same thing, agreed. My only point being this is why the 'big-wigs' aren't in jail.

Agreed, not sure why you’re being downvoted. As if it’s your fault they weren’t jailed.

The mob is fickle :)

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by smcl »

8note wrote: post #89
smcl wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn’t the issue that the “money” that was left was actually in the form of largely worthless cryptocurrency investments, some of which were issued by FTX themselves.

Which seems kinda silly. People willingly traded their USD for garbage that wasn't worth anything, and put their money into accounts any reasonable person would think is worthless. He was really just serving a market for people trying to put their money into valueless garbage

I dunno, all kinds of fraudsters and scammers are "serving a market" if you think about it like that. I guess it remains to be seen whether what they did was considered legal or not. Very very probably not.

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by dns_snek »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #28

Hard to square with the lack of consequences (for those responsible) for the 2009 financial crisis.

I agree, everyone involved in that should've suffered the same consequences, or worse, but the next best time to start handing out real punishment is right now.

Re: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried Should Serve 40 to 50 Years in Prison, Prosecutors Say

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Post by maxbond »

infecto wrote: post #122
maxbond wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just ask nicely. "Could you provide a source for that claim?" No one is owed a citation in casual conversation; you're not holding them to an agreed upon standard, you're asking for a favor. So it's better to be polite and not escalate from a conversation to a debate or argument.

Sorry no. If you are going to share an opinion at least share why instead of saying “multitude of reasons”. It’s like any other low effort comment that adds nothing.

Please consider that your comment was also low effort, but turned the conversation in a more argumentative direction. To be frank with you, that's worse than a low effort comment that adds nothing; it detracts. It's better to downvote and/or flag such comments without responding than to respond while raising the temperature of the discussion.
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