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Post by JohnMakin »

homefree wrote: post #106
JohnMakin wrote: post #51

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Traumatic early childhood experiences (suffering) can cause profoundly negative, irreversible effects on a child's brain development that will have issues persist well into adulthood and beyond - I don't think his take is scientific. edit: not sure why downvoted, here's a source if you don't believe me: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3968319/

I think a lot of this psych science is bullshit - I’m generally skeptical of it given the problems in the replication crisis (and that a lot of modern psychotherapy seems to be making things worse for kids).

Ok, sure, but that doesn't really apply here. This is a well known neurological change that can be seen in brain scans - for instance the hippocampus will shrink/be underdeveloped.

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Post by JohnMakin »

homefree wrote: post #105
tpmoney wrote: post #95

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The only universal truth is that no thruths are universal. And I think “suffering builds character” in this and its other forms is a perfect example. Yes, extreme suffering will cause long term problems. And yet at the same time, we’re all probably familiar with or know someone who experienced “the gifted student wall” where their natural talent was good enough to carry them to success, right up until the point it wa…

Even (maybe especially) extreme suffering can create resilience - I suspect it’s not optimal for happiness, but that’s not what this is about. This is about resilience. A less resilient person may have a perfectly happy and content life doing things that aren’t as hard, that’s true of most people. But someone who has something extreme happen to them will have a way higher fucking bar for bad. If you lost your family…

> If you lost your family in war the stress of a startup is nothing to you.

But respectfully this isn’t really how PTSD works. It seems intuitive to say this, but in reality, stressful situations will often trigger an exaggerated flight or fight response than is warranted due to changes in the brain’s structure, especially the hippocampus. Repeated, prolonged trauma makes the person even less resilient, not more so.

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Post by homefree »

JohnMakin wrote: post #122
homefree wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even (maybe especially) extreme suffering can create resilience - I suspect it’s not optimal for happiness, but that’s not what this is about. This is about resilience. A less resilient person may have a perfectly happy and content life doing things that aren’t as hard, that’s true of most people. But someone who has something extreme happen to them will have a way higher fucking bar for bad. If you lost your family…

> If you lost your family in war the stress of a startup is nothing to you. But respectfully this isn’t really how PTSD works. It seems intuitive to say this, but in reality, stressful situations will often trigger an exaggerated flight or fight response than is warranted due to changes in the brain’s structure, especially the hippocampus. Repeated, prolonged trauma makes the person even less resilient, not more so.

Not everybody develops PTSD, I think that’s the core point.

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Post by JohnMakin »

homefree wrote: post #123
JohnMakin wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you lost your family in war the stress of a startup is nothing to you. But respectfully this isn’t really how PTSD works. It seems intuitive to say this, but in reality, stressful situations will often trigger an exaggerated flight or fight response than is warranted due to changes in the brain’s structure, especially the hippocampus. Repeated, prolonged trauma makes the person even less resilient, not more so.

Not everybody develops PTSD, I think that’s the core point.

But not everyone develops PTSD precisely because they have innate resilience - at least that's how the theory goes. The resilience doesn't come from the trauma.

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Post by znpy »

wslh wrote: post #23
cowboyscott wrote: post #11

This reminds me of the speech Bill Murray’s character gives at the start of Rushmore [0]: > You guys have it real easy. I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the ri…

Rushmore, I think one of the greatest movies ever (and i don't like other Anderson's movies [1]). Going back to the topic I think Jensen is right 99.9999 % of the time. An exception could be Bill Gates and I don't think that is because him was born in a priviledged family but because he has an unique drive [2]. [1] https://www.imdb.com/user/ur0601133/ratings [2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41611.Hard_Drive

Bill gates’ mother was an executive at ibm, many say that has played a role when he was trying to sell dos to ibm. On top of being born in a privileged family, i mean.

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Post by colineartheta »

OldGuyInTheClub wrote: post #100
cowboyscott wrote: post #11

This reminds me of the speech Bill Murray’s character gives at the start of Rushmore [0]: > You guys have it real easy. I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the ri…

The current crop of ultrabillionaires may lack many things but I don't think backbone is on the list. They are as ruthless as any robber baron or industrialist of old. They can buy, sell, and eliminate people and governments as they see fit. Good luck getting close enough to take actual or metaphorical aim.

I think “backbone” in this context is a stand-in for “integrity” and/or “honor”. I think the fact that they can “buy, sell, and eliminate people and governments as they see fit” is the obvious proof that they don’t possess any real integrity, dignity, or honor for themselves or other people - so, no, they don’t have “backbone”. Power, wealth, sure. But not backbone.

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Post by sanderjd »

op00to wrote: post #114
sanderjd wrote: post #103

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Yes, but this is (IMO) just one of the important reasons that one manager should not have 58 direct reports. Now, maybe this is fine for someone who manages other executives, where the primary touch points can be, like quarterly budget and strategy reports or something (I honestly have no idea what people like this do day to day, so I'm totally guessing on this...). But out near the "leaves" of an org, managers exist…

There are almost certainly unwritten reporting lines at nvidia. No one can be an effective manager with 58 direct reports.

Yep, exactly.

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Post by sanderjd »

detourdog wrote: post #110
sanderjd wrote: post #85

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It's certainly the most raw and personal, to its benefit, but it's too unpolished to be as great as the others. I wish he had remade it like a decade ago, after honing his style and technical talents, and with a right-sized budget. I'd still go see it if he did a remake now, but I doubt it would maintain enough of its spark at this point :)

I’m drawn to rawness. I think the acting performances is what really appeals to me. I don't think a remake could capture those. Royal Tenanbaums is really polished and well done.

Right, one of the many great things about Rushmore is that it is a mix of these. It's amazingly polished for someone's second movie. Like, that aspect of it shocks me every time I watch it. But it also still has a lot of that raw soul that Bottle Rocket does.

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Post by detourdog »

sanderjd wrote: post #128
detourdog wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m drawn to rawness. I think the acting performances is what really appeals to me. I don't think a remake could capture those. Royal Tenanbaums is really polished and well done.

Right, one of the many great things about Rushmore is that it is a mix of these. It's amazingly polished for someone's second movie. Like, that aspect of it shocks me every time I watch it. But it also still has a lot of that raw soul that Bottle Rocket does.

I will watch Rushmore tonight.

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