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Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Big tech firms – moving to another cloud provider will cost you $50M in egress fees. EU – actually, it must be free. Big tech firms – free and open competition is integral to society, and we value freedom of choice over anything else, so of course data transfer is free for our valued customers.

More and more it feels like the EU is the only thing keeping the bastards honest

Not sure where you're seeing honesty..

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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You can have terabytes of data for internal purposes, analytics, etc. That never moves out of the data center except when you want to migrate.

The bigger you are the less data you might have to export - because all your tools are inside the fence. Small companies download reports/analytics/files from X and upload them to Y, etc, big companies do it all inside.

> The bigger you are the less data you might have to export

You're strictly limiting yourself to companies that provide no internet-facing services?

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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That is weird, people taking a body of work out of context to advance their agenda.

That’s basically all advocates of Adam Smith. I doubt that most of them have even read it — they’d be shocked by what he actually wrote.

His detractors do the same.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Google ostensibly offers this as well. However - I’m in the middle of moving us to Azure and I have more details on the Google deal: you only have 60 days to complete the migration and then you must terminate your billing account. It’s a total window dressing of an offer and completely unrealistic for any reasonably large organization to use. Malicious compliance at its finest and I hope they get sued by the EU for it until they make it a more reasonable offer.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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post #90

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That’s basically all advocates of Adam Smith. I doubt that most of them have even read it — they’d be shocked by what he actually wrote.

His detractors do the same.

Quite likely, unfortunately. Having read both The Theory of Moral Sentiments and The Wealth of Nations I think he's insightful and had his head screwed on properly...and disagree with at least 90% of his fans.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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on-prem is still “the internet”

I mean this is not fee-free unlimited egress back to prem, but a one-time export of your data with manual approval . This does not let you build big-data workflows around temporary use of EC2.

Nor it is intended for you to.

It’s meant for situations where you intend to leave AWS for good, not spin up another EC2 instance when you need it, generate terabytes of data and then transfer it out for free.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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That, friends, is a "tell". It shows they know they are raking people over the coals with intentional, preconceived illegal anticompetitive behavior written into their documentation. Right from the playbook, they have a sweet marketing wrapup for when they have to walk back their preconceived illegal behavior to the minimum directed border. Tech corps especially now do this as standard operating procedure (I mean Ube…

The other comment mentioned how google didn't even acknowledge why they did it. I have to say, talking to AWS and GCP, the AWS marketing, onboarding, and support arm are far far far far far superior to google's. In fact they are so far apart that our management has blatantly discarded google as even an option for moving our infra over because of how terrible our interactions have been. I'm all for de-throning the kin…

Agreed. Court jester is the correct phrase, as GCP are complete clowns. Some of the stories we know of, from our customers, about GCP's conduct and lack of any semblance of professionalism are shocking. MSFT/Azure on the other hand, are formidable and worthy competitors in the cloud space, against AWS.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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> Over 90 percent of our customers already incur no data transfer expenses out of AWS because we provide 100 gigabytes per month free from AWS Regions to the internet. Damn, that's a lot of tiny customers. 100 GB per month is less than what many use on their phone during a month. So basically, most people using AWS is definitely people who don't need it to scale.

> So basically, most people using AWS is definitely people who don't need it to scale. This is what we would expect, right? Surely the huge majority of AWS users are small and wouldn't have the slightest interest in owning/managing their own hardware.

Well the biggest "scalers" have become Cloud providers themselves.

I think there's a good saying about Cloud and scaling, paraphrasing - "if you don't start on Cloud that's unwise and if you (over)stay that's insane". I guess as your solution reaches maturity and stability (no sudden swings in usage or complete changes in the architecture) then you should start thinking about some on-prem solution with maybe the hardware being leased along with maitenance.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Exactly correct. AWS has a giant suite of services, and if they are forced to reduce egress charges, they would raise prices on other services to keep their margins consistent. The market knows this and thus why the market doesn't react to non-news like this. An interesting question: why does AWS charge so much for egress knowing that it could dissuade some currently-on-prem use cases? It definitely forces optimizati…

AWS internally has a very strong allergy to raising prices. If anything there is generally pressure to reduce prices.

There are all sorts of ways for AWS to raise prices without explicitly raising the price for an r7g.x64:

1) Starting charging legacy fees like the MySQL 5.7 fees 2) Start charging for hits, IO, etc 3) Tier out fees like with Aurora IO optimized to increase revenue 4) Push support levers 5) Stop reducing prices for older instance models

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