Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't even know what a write-off is.
For those who don't get the reference: https://twitter.com/JayBauman1/status/1665024103282012161/vi...
I believe the proper response should have been "Do you?"
Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
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Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#122There's no way in hell anyone should ever under any circumstance use a free service that might, for reasons entirely outside your control, suddenly bill you 5k, or 104k... or any non trivial amount really. Just suspend service on excessive overages...
Yeah. Elsewhere in these comments there's a link to a support thread[0] where Netlify support essentially says you shouldn't ever need an option to suspend your site at a certain point because:
#1. If you think there's any chance of getting DDoSd, you should already be on a business plan instead of a starter tier.
#2. If you think there's any chance of your site going viral, you're going to want to pay the cost anyway to let all those people visit.
I agree that's ridiculous and that the lack of any option of capping costs would mean I'd never sign up for the service. But that's the official response, for what its worth.
[0] https://answers.netlify.com/t/limit-bandwidth-to-avoid-high-...
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#123Defaulting to unbounded liability as the standard operating procedure for cloud infrastructure should be illegal.
And it is, I remember cases where telcos were prevented from charging thousands for roaming expenses because they were not licensed to make large loans.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#124Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#125This is my worst nightmare as a bootstrapped founder. And that there's no way to put a limit on spend is ridiculous. Someone that doesn't want me to do well can simply ddos me into bankruptcy out of nowhere. Just went through Vercel's docs: --- "Vercel helps to mitigate against L3 and L4 DDoS attacks at the platform level. Usage will be incurred for requests that are successfully served prior to us automatically miti…
Host on a provider which bills per hour. This caps your cost. It also makes your users pissed because you will go down, but if you’re small, you can afford that. If you’re big, you already have scaling options and should have a team to handle ddos.
Yeah. Any host that won't infinitely scale out will solve this concern for you.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#126So if I want to migrate off of netlify to something better, where?
https://render.com/ is free for static sites with custom domain support and SSL included. been happy so far! used to use s3 for the longest time, but aside from costing a nominal fee, it's so unnecessarily complicated in this day and age.
> used to use s3 for the longest time, but aside from costing a nominal fee, it's so unnecessarily complicated in this day and age
its like 10 minutes of setup tops to host on s3
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#127Thats criminal, hope you get things sorted. Amazon would wave it.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
It means that they will charge you 20k (a year's rent for me, no biggie) instead of 100k for your free website, or 5k if you got lucky.
If you value uptime, even through being massively attacked, they can offer you that.
That is not unique to this price point and most of their competitors do not charge for unusual traffic spikes.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#129This is my worst nightmare as a bootstrapped founder. And that there's no way to put a limit on spend is ridiculous. Someone that doesn't want me to do well can simply ddos me into bankruptcy out of nowhere. Just went through Vercel's docs: --- "Vercel helps to mitigate against L3 and L4 DDoS attacks at the platform level. Usage will be incurred for requests that are successfully served prior to us automatically miti…
> Cloudflare's ddos protection
Yeah, we got hammered once with over 10TB/mo and noped out of Netlify as fast as we could: https://twitter.com/rethinkdns/status/1370342245841342466 Had to pay the bill in full.
Cloudflare's free tier is ridiculous: We do over 30TB+ of genuine traffic for $0. Makes it hard to move to any other platform. As a small tech shop, this is my Hotel California I'm happy to never leave.
Re: Netlify just sent me a $104k bill for a simple static site
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s not because hosting instances doesn’t actually cost Amazon anything Except it doesn't cost them anything. The marginal cost of keeping your single instance running is $0 (unless they were 100% out of capacity and they could have sold that instance to someone else either at full price or spot price)
Electricity costs money
But no electricity is used if your instance is up but idle.