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Post by iExploder »

megamix wrote: post #79
mooreds wrote: post #70

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Hmm. What is an example of a 'real craft'? I'm not sure I follow.

Oh my bad! You can either categorize them as 'artisans' and 'blue collar'. E.g. in no particular order: metal smith (silver gold etc), welder, carpentry, plumber, mechanic, fine artist, sculptor, textile. Basically the 'real trades' that have been around and should be around for many years. The type of jobs that the white collars can't do without. Either you outperform other CEOs and get rich on your own business, or…

Subject to automation as any other human endeavour.

Might as well say to get a real job like hunting, foraging for berries or animal herding.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by vinyl7 »

andyg_blog wrote: post #8

Sometimes it takes an existential event in our lives to really drive home what actually matters. On your death bed you won't wish that you spent more time delivering value to a company (even a great one) than spending time nurturing relationships with loved ones. On another note, your value as a human is not the same as the economic value you produce, and it's too easy to conflate the two

> your value as a human is not the same as the economic value you produce

Unfortunately that is how we are seen and thusly treated by the government and by corporations

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by erwincoumans »

jeffrallen wrote: post #95
scarface_74 wrote: post #53

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I am almost 50 and on my ninth job. I haven’t been “passionate” about my job ever. It has always served as no more than a means to support my addiction to food and shelter.

> addiction to food and shelter You didn't get hooked on dihydrogen oxide? That's the worst, a very difficult addiction to kick. Hang in there!

If you like dihydrogen oxide, I highly recommend you try to inhale a mix of 79% nitrogen and 21% oxygen once in a while.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by javaunsafe2019 »

eastbound wrote: post #86
DinaCoder99 wrote: post #62

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Like what?

Like helping the new marketing girl grow from a noob in everything to an absolutely master of a PO, Like building a product so well made that it makes people say “I’ve searched for 15 years for this product”; Like watching this self-absorbed geek grow from a 40-yo single to a polished mannered person with a girlfriend. I mean no-one is excited to build an accounting software, but I’m excited when people grow. Actuall…

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Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by com »

eastbound wrote: post #86
DinaCoder99 wrote: post #62

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Like what?

Like helping the new marketing girl grow from a noob in everything to an absolutely master of a PO, Like building a product so well made that it makes people say “I’ve searched for 15 years for this product”; Like watching this self-absorbed geek grow from a 40-yo single to a polished mannered person with a girlfriend. I mean no-one is excited to build an accounting software, but I’m excited when people grow. Actuall…

You know you’ve succeeded in a role when there’s a list of people you’ve supported in growth who are really sad you’re going, worried how they’ll manage without you, but who you know 100% have totally got this.

I’ve gone back years later to a couple of ex-workplaces and seen with my own eyes how those uncertain (or over-certain ;-) folks are in their power and confidence and capability. Others I run into in professional settings and get feedback from others about them not just being great people but awesome professionals.

Knowing you’ve smoothed the way, helped out with existential fears, fed growth of good people when they needed it is the most awesome part of my career. Better even than much of what the paychecks bought me - blurry photos, fatty-liver and electronics in landfill.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

hestefisk wrote: post #82
mooreds wrote: post #72

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I live in the USA and always wonder what awesome companies or organizations are we missing out on because people are tied to their employer due to healthcare. I know at least one couple close to retirement that is waiting until one of them can get onto cobra for the months before they can get onto Medicare. (They just budgeted for cobra in their planning.) I like how the Aussies do it (or at least how they did it las…

Aussie here. Very few employers here offer health plans. Medicare is more or less like NHS in the UK. If you earn more than a certain amount, you have to pay for your own private health insurance. It is significantly cheaper than in the US. Source: myself

> If you earn more than a certain amount, you have to pay for your own private health insurance

Do you fall back into Medicare if you start earning less afterwards?

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

herbst wrote: post #88
bogota wrote: post #48

This is something i think has been slowly changing in the US. At least among the people i know. Work is now just work. Five years ago it had to be your passion it is what you wanted or at least i wanted to be defined by. After seeing how little any company cares about people work is what i try to spend the least amount of time doing. At 5 or ideally 4 i clock out and only respond if I am paged. Additionally i have ch…

I was never passionate about work until I did my own thing on my own time. Now I am proud and really like my work. I don't think I could have ever lived that feeling working for someone else.

Couldn’t agree more.

I was a manager for 25 years. It was soul-sucking. I think I was a very good manager, but I hated it.

I did code on the side, mainly to stay sane (not sure if it worked -Ed.).

When I was finally let go, after almost 27 years, I ran smack-dab into SV’s notorious ageism. It was humiliating, humbling, and infuriating. I fairly quickly gave up looking, as the search was way more soul-sucking than being a manager. I had the means to retire early. I hadn’t planned for it, but we make plans, and God laughs.

As it turned out, it was probably the best thing that could have happened. I have been furiously coding, ever since (solid green GH Activity Graph). My family also had some rather serious medical issues, and it was good that I could stay home. I live in a state with great health coverage, so I’m grateful.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by mooreds »

JustExAWS wrote: post #75
mooreds wrote: post #69

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> served as no more than a means to support my addiction to food and shelter. Haha, that's a poetic way to put it. How do you set boundaries? Any tips?

Well first, always be prepared to look for another job 1. Develop a strong network 2. Keep an updated career document with a list of your accomplishments in STAR format 3. Keep your skill set in line with the market 4. Live below your means and keep a cash cushion 5. Don’t be a “ticker taker” work on having projects with scope where you can talk about things “you led” or “you designed” Now worse case, you can find an…

Great advice, thanks!

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by shakow »

stringsandchars wrote: post #113
shakow wrote: post #97

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Noone is talking about Sweden, the thread is on the UK.

> Noone is talking about Sweden, the thread is on the UK I was replying to a response that was specifically about Sweden. > Erikun > This was my thought exactly (I’m Swedish). It sounds so brutal, and it was not just her own but her entire family’s! > adastra22 > Then she would have waited 10 months for a CT scan instead of 10 days. I noticed that adastra22 was downvoted for this. I'm really not sure why, as it very…

I'm afraid you hit the wrong ‶reply″ button.

Re: Losing two jobs in one year

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Post by xetplan »

Epa095 wrote: post #55
scarface_74 wrote: post #53

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I am almost 50 and on my ninth job. I haven’t been “passionate” about my job ever. It has always served as no more than a means to support my addiction to food and shelter.

How booring. Has there really not been anything fun and exciting in any of your nine jobs?

I have had about the same number.

Of course there have been things that are fun and interesting but I don't drone on about it, pretending it is like I am getting paid to drink at a bar and flirt.

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