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Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by Shadowmist »

MostlyStable wrote: post #9

As a paying customer, I agree that the only thing I care about from Kagi is search, but ...I think that there is a very non-trivial chance that in the near future, search almost entirely gets eaten by AI. It makes sense to me that a search company would be exploring AI and its interaction with search. While I hope this doesn't become the main focus (until and unless it has to be), the history of companies like Kodak…

I pay for search, and would also pay for email (currently paying Google). Speaking of Google, I hate the Kagi “g” logo.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by pests »

BadHumans wrote: post #108
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is that many webites used to hire writers which wrote tangentially related posts to get their main product higher ranked. Like LogRocket and Partition Minitool do. Combine that with that guy who boasted about his 'SEO heist', I think it's a very valid concern.

I have solved many problems because of a blog post created by company that wanted to get their product name out there and I don't think they should be looked at negatively for doing that. Are upset whenever a companies tech blog lands on HN? Because it is virtually the same thing. If you use Kagi and come across a site that you find is low quality and spammy then just block it. That's the cool thing about using Kagi.

Agreed.

I've also found that type of developer marketing valuable many times in the past. It's sometimes obvious its going to end in a pitch for the product, but often it does a good job summarizing the key problems in the space, mentioning or showing other solutions / offerings, and pitching which tradeoffs they made for their own product and how they solved issues.

Even if you don't go with the ad, you can quickly pivot to other named players or get a better understanding of the terminology or jargon to start searching more.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by [deleted] »

vasco wrote: post #110
daco wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any reliable AI generated content detector today ? I've tried many free and paying ones online, but they're aren't reliable

It's impossible to make. You cannot prove any sentence was created by an LLM and you can't prove it wasn't.

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Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by kosmozaut »

nicce wrote: post #57
sedatk wrote: post #14

I've been a paying Kagi user for a few months now. The only thing that made me miss Google results was immediate answers: the answers that are extracted from a prominent web page and shown directly, so you don't have to click the link. Actually, Kagi has some of that for certain queries, but it's not as extensive as Google's. So, contrary to the most of the comments here, I support their AI endeavors for the sake of…

I have personally started to avoid Google’s and others immediate answers, because they are often very wrong because they are picked out of the contex. They try to show what you want to see, but it often means something else.

This is so true! While planning a trip abroad last year we were unsure about whether $thing is legal in $country. Google proclaimed in bold letters that, yes, $thing is legal in $country, but this line was taken from a site with the title "common misconceptions about traveling in $country" an in fact $thing was not legal.

Such a basic mistake, I haven't trusted the instant results ever since.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

#125

Post by stefandesu »

Shadowmist wrote: post #121
MostlyStable wrote: post #9

As a paying customer, I agree that the only thing I care about from Kagi is search, but ...I think that there is a very non-trivial chance that in the near future, search almost entirely gets eaten by AI. It makes sense to me that a search company would be exploring AI and its interaction with search. While I hope this doesn't become the main focus (until and unless it has to be), the history of companies like Kodak…

I pay for search, and would also pay for email (currently paying Google). Speaking of Google, I hate the Kagi “g” logo.

Same, it sometimes confuses me and I think I'm on Google. But maybe that's exactly the point.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by stpe »

Funny. Kagi was the payment solution I used to sell shareware in the late 90'ies. I believe the company later disappeared due a fraud case that made it bankrupt.

Seems like both domain and company name is recycled into this now.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by dannyobrien »

I think everyone has some point where they determined that Google "went bad" (or at least everyone who thought they were good at some point). Mine is Google Plus, because they decided to make it, like Facebook, a destination. Before it was unveiled, I assumed it was going to be, like AdWords, a thing you could add to your website: adding a social layer to the Web would have increased its usefulness, allowed Google to do its usual thing of providing a feature that informed it of where the interesting stuff was, and undermined Facebook's main advantage over the rest of the web.

I'm cheered that Kagi gets what Google forgot.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by reddalo »

stefandesu wrote: post #125
Shadowmist wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pay for search, and would also pay for email (currently paying Google). Speaking of Google, I hate the Kagi “g” logo.

Same, it sometimes confuses me and I think I'm on Google. But maybe that's exactly the point.

How do you get confused? It's orange and black, completely different from Google's.

But... it reminds me of old-school Google logo, before they changed it to the simple sans-serif new one.

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

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Post by t00 »

In Kagi example search results I found some results being considerably not relevant to the search query. Is it like an option "discover" which can be disabled? Headphones search returned a MacOS app when searching on a phone. Does actual search vary reaults based on device user-agent class or platform?

Re: Kagi Sidekick (alpha)

#130

Post by Aeolun »

freediver wrote: post #83
hackeruse wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a naive take. SEO schemes are attractive for companies that sell products themselves (e.g. try searching anything related to ETL tools). The content itself is the ad and you won’t find any ad serving scripts or affiliate links in there. (Source: have created such schemes, although would generally not recommend them to my customers nowadays)

Underestimate the average Kagi user at your own peril. I do not think many would fall prey to an LLM generated content marketing page and end up buying a product from such site. Much likelier scenario is the page gets instantly blocked/reported.

That is, until eternal september.
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