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Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by dr_faustus »

hipadev23 wrote: post #81

Just make sure any workloads you place on Hetzner are treated as spot instances and outputs are immediately sent off network. The reliability of their systems and customer support is very low. Hetzner is a 5-star or 1-star company. Are you willing to risk your business on the flip of a coin? My own experience [2] was definitely a 1-star. [1] https://www.trustpilot.com/review/hetzner.com [2] https://news.ycombinator.c…

Trustpilot is a scam which encourages bad reviews to force companies to buy their paid plan to “manage” those bad reviews and to feed it good reviews.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by 0xcde4c3db »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #39
bluedino wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what the exact 'rule' is here, but you wouldn't use a contraction in this sentence. It is, with ample RAM and the latest CPU.

From https://www.yourdictionary.com/articles/contractions-correct... - Contractions can be used in any position in a sentence; however, homophone contractions such as "it's" and "they're" sound better when followed by another word or phrase. The reason is that the sounds of "its" and "it's" and "they're" and "their" are so similar that they can be confusing unless they are used with the context of an additional word.

I think it's less to do with homophone confusion and more to do with usage patterns relating the contracted part to a phrase rather than a single word [1] [2]. By the logic of the homophone explanation, the following exchange should be much more acceptable than a sentence ending with "it's" or "they're", but to me it seems equally strange:

"Are you waiting for someone?"

"Yes, I'm."

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkZyZFa5qO0

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitic

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by brudgers »

k8sToGo wrote: post #74
brudgers wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t this imply that it’s better to rent than to buy? TANSTAAFL 1. Physical hardware is a useful abstraction. 2. At the end of a three year cycle, you can sell something you own. (This has associated costs of course). 3. Rents can go up. Terms and Conditions can change. Credit cards can expire or be cancelled. In other words, renting introduces a significant dependency. 4. You are your own most important customer.…

You forgot that Hetzner also has spare parts.

And Dells have warranties.

And both offer service agreements.

And Hetzner is a straight line expense while a Dell might be a depreciating asset.

And either both or neither may offer discounts off retail.

And so on.

Because that’s the nature of actual decisions versus online arguments.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by noAnswer »

formerly_proven wrote: post #92
Propelloni wrote: post #73

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You need to compare prices again. Residential electricity costs are significantly below your quoted rate for quite some time now. I've just checked and the lowest rate I saw was 21 ct/kWh. Most vendors are somewhere in the 25 to 30 ct/kWh bracket.

> The average electricity price for households fell by almost 8 percent at the beginning of 2024 compared to the annual average for 2023 and now amounts to an average of 42.22 ct/kWh (2023: 45.73 ct/kWh; base price included pro rata for a consumption of 3,500 kWh/a ). https://www.bdew.de/service/daten-und-grafiken/bdew-strompre...

I'm at a small local energy provider. I have their most expensive 100% renewable tariff. Even after the invasion the price only went up to 28,36 €ct/kWh. Yet, my parents pay above 45 to RWE. (That's what cheap nuclear power stations get you I guess.) My father finally changed providers but thanks to the super fair contract has to wait now over a year for it to happen. And thanks to the "Strompreisbremse" I have to subsidise those ass companies.

sorry for being of topic

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by echelon »

chrisweekly wrote: post #109
brudgers wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t this imply that it’s better to rent than to buy? TANSTAAFL 1. Physical hardware is a useful abstraction. 2. At the end of a three year cycle, you can sell something you own. (This has associated costs of course). 3. Rents can go up. Terms and Conditions can change. Credit cards can expire or be cancelled. In other words, renting introduces a significant dependency. 4. You are your own most important customer.…

> TANSTAAFL "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" (I had to look it up, figure I'll save someone else yhe trouble)

It used to be moderately common acronym back in the 90's and 00's. It felt like a blast from the past seeing it crop up again.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by breakingcups »

dmaa wrote: post #113

It looks like a good value for money, but immediately after registering, I get this reply "After reviewing your updated customer information, we have decided to deactivate your account because of some concerns we have regarding this information. Therefore, we have cancelled all your existing products and orders with us." Someone has a similar experience? I've tried it twice, filled everything truthfuly, valid credit…

There's a manual verification process if you contact support. Obnoxious that it's needed, but works for many people.

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by justinclift »

dist-epoch wrote: post #75
wongarsu wrote: post #42

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Hetzner is not only able to get better volume discounts, they also spend a lot of engineering time bringing down costs, and have decades of experience doing so. They offer some Dell Servers for those that really want them, but most of their servers have a custom mix of consumer hardware, server hardware and in-house hardware (for example they use their own racking system), optimized to minimize lifetime cost in a dat…

Hetzner is buying ASUS consumer AM5 motherboards, but with the whole CPU + memory block rotated so that the memory sticks are horizontal instead of vertical for better airflow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2P8mjWRqpk

They also buy (at least) ASRock Rack motherboards as well.

Saying that from looking at the dmidecode output from some of our dedicated server currently with them:

    Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
    Base Board Information
        Manufacturer: ASRockRack
        Product Name: B565D4-V1L

Re: Hetzner GPU Server

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Post by throwaway81523 »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #55
Scotrix wrote: post #46

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Have been in deep contact with data centre and rental server offerings in the past, there is a crazy large amount of fraud going on, e.g. 2 hours for free means 2 hours free resource to DDOS.

I don't want it free. I want to put $2 on the account. Try the server and decide after using the server.

You can do that with Hetzner virtual (cloud) servers, just not with dedicated servers.
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