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Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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I contributed to the helicopter design for it so I'm biased but I think it'll happen eventually even if the funding isn't approved this administration/year/decade. The already-stashed samples will be up there basically forever, and we'll probably want samples from a few different areas anyways, so it makes sense to go grab them.

Mars has weather, unlike the moon. Will the samples really still be there a decade or two from now?

I would expect muskonauts will make the samples redundant by then.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#124

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I contributed to the helicopter design for it so I'm biased but I think it'll happen eventually even if the funding isn't approved this administration/year/decade. The already-stashed samples will be up there basically forever, and we'll probably want samples from a few different areas anyways, so it makes sense to go grab them.

Mars has weather, unlike the moon. Will the samples really still be there a decade or two from now?

I'd wager yes since Mars has less extreme thermal cycles than the moon

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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It is a very common theme in Elite Dangerous, to the point that the station controller will sometimes say "Oh seven, commander" to you.

Also ubiquitous in Eve Online since about 15 years ago. Did it originate in Elite Dangerous?

No, predates broadband at least. Certainly was around on Usenet in the nineties.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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That's ridiculous, nobody swims up a waterfall (but actually, thanks for the illustration... my dad was in the military but apparently long enough ago that I entirely missed this) Edit: oh! You used a capital O rather than a little one! That makes loads of difference... the "hand" placement in o7 is way over the forehead, while O7 (or is it 07? either way) is much closer to a proper salute! Perhaps the military cultu…

It's also the wrong hand. But I think the little o looks more like a head in this case. O7 just looks like a hex code or something.

Right hand if you're standing behind him...

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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For anyone interested in the structure of the software that ran Ingenuity (and some hardware design aspects, such as the use of commercial off-the-shelve parts), there is an awesome and critically underwatched video of Timothy Canham explaining everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQu9m4MG5Gc&t=7s

I always thought it was crazy that NASA uses a FPGA/microcontroller/cell phone SOC setup, which makes total sense to me, but mundane industrial things like the traffic light at an intersection needs a giant cabinet with shelves of crazy seimens controllers, it feels like such overkill in comparison, you can see them on this channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpB-en9KKM . The guy is always arguing with the commenters that its all needed for safety. I never could figure out why some company doesnt come up with a NASA-sized solution to control the worlds intersections instead.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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post #127

For anyone interested in the structure of the software that ran Ingenuity (and some hardware design aspects, such as the use of commercial off-the-shelve parts), there is an awesome and critically underwatched video of Timothy Canham explaining everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQu9m4MG5Gc&t=7s

I always thought it was crazy that NASA uses a FPGA/microcontroller/cell phone SOC setup, which makes total sense to me, but mundane industrial things like the traffic light at an intersection needs a giant cabinet with shelves of crazy seimens controllers, it feels like such overkill in comparison, you can see them on this channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpB-en9KKM . The guy is always arguing with the comme…

It's not needed for safety, but for liability. The equipment is costly because it need to be certified, because every piece of equipment inside will need to be certified. Engineers in this field are averse to new technology because they are liable if something goes wrong.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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So, it still landed, upright no less, with a piece of the rotor blade missing? I'd guess that when a piece of rotor comes off during flight, the imbalance would make landing impossible. Very curious to what happened, but probably we'll never know exactly.

Landing is easy. Landing without causing further damage, though...

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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In 1993, to Richard Garriott, for just $68,000: https://www.space.com/8073-privately-owned-soviet-moon-rover...

But technically Russia might not have owned title to it in the first place. Sounds almost like an NFT before NFTs existed: -- Space lawyer, Joanne Irene Gabrynowicz (University of Mississippi) said: without reading the papers or knowing how they were processed and by whom, she can't speak to the validity of the ownership of a space object purchased at auction. "However, a contention that buying a space object that la…

Yeah, but the rover itself was in possesion of russia and is now in posession of Garriot. That is undisputed.

What is rightfully disputed, is whether he also owns the land under the rover. He would like to, but not possible with current laws.

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