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Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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My money has been on Meta for AGI since they started training people to label data for them (tag your friends!) Between all their properties they have more instrumentation on humans, collecting human behavior trajectories and state action pairs transfer learning and inverse RL than anyone - and it’s not even a close second Specifically and critically I think they likely have the largest egocentric multimodal labeled…

I have always felt Ebay dropped the ball on this with untold amounts of custom, varying quality photos with tons of metadata added by users. Presumably they are working on using this, but I haven't seen anything from them for it.

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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The actual quote:

> "Our long term vision is to build general intelligence, open source it responsibly, and make it widely available so everyone can benefit."

"responsibly" is a pretty important word there that the hn title leaves out. I'm not really sure how that would be possible with a true general intelligence give the alignment problem - it's not really clear to me there's any responsible way to build a true general intelligence with that issue unsolved.

For those that haven't watched his video interview, it's really great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aCg7jH4S1w - I highly recommend it to see how AI makes the low-fidelity stuff powerful (AR raybans) while the high fidelity stuff (VR) continues to improve.

I think it makes sense strategically for Meta to pursue the open version with licensing they control, the leak of llama was advantageous to them. If they have the dominant open model they're well positioned if the 'nobody has a moat' analysis is actually true. Not too dissimilar from their open compute server stuff, a bit of commoditizing your complement. If you have the data then the model itself is the complement?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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I don’t think this announcement will make any of the relevant debates (on the impact of Meta on the world, or the fears around AI, or the confusion on whether sharing a trained model qualifies as “open source”) any less frustratingly controversial and heated.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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As a show of good faith, they should open up Messenger to support interoperable open standards without needing to use various self-hosted bridges on the likes of Matrix.

I spend a lot of my life very much hoping for things like that, but I’m increasingly wondering how not having a central server makes it impossible to be interoperable, successful, and spam-proof.

Having “AGI” —or at least a very convincing conversation agent— isn’t helping much.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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I love facebook. I hate other big tech companies. Facebook has done far more for software than any other company in the last 15 years. They: 1. Pushed salaries up across the board. Many people are not aware, but facebook was a major driver behind the 500k+ senior engineering pay. 2. Released major open source software: PyTorch, React, GraphQL, React Native. They basically invented modern web development. Facebook is…

Don't forget LLaMa

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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so far hees made nothing but viral spyware but its all about to change!

You're right, of course, but also Bill Gates was a cartoon capitalist villain for decades and then suddenly he started saving millions of kids in the third world.

Maybe Mark will have a similar moment of redemption, who knows.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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I love facebook. I hate other big tech companies. Facebook has done far more for software than any other company in the last 15 years. They: 1. Pushed salaries up across the board. Many people are not aware, but facebook was a major driver behind the 500k+ senior engineering pay. 2. Released major open source software: PyTorch, React, GraphQL, React Native. They basically invented modern web development. Facebook is…

> Pushed salaries up across the board. Many people are not aware, but facebook was a major driver behind the 500k+ senior engineering pay.

I think this was because anyone who is principled doesn't want to work for them. They have to pay more.

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