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The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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post #75

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We could also abandon the internet as a place to interact with people and go back to meat space. The internet can be a place exclusively for doing work such as filing taxes and paying bills, etc..

That sounds awful.

Interacting with people face to face isn't so bad. On average I find it a lot more meaningful than anything that occurs online.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#122
post #45

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Ye like the canned responses in Teams. Removes the fine grained nuances.

Does anyone actually use those? I have not seen any instances of it within the companies I've been at.

Probably not. I personally would feel like a twat using them. There are like mumbling a lazy disinterested answer, face to face.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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There’s a grain of truth here, but I object to the hyperbolic headline as it is unsupported by the content’s described data points which are exceptional rather than representative of typical content.

“The internet is broken in a fundamental way”? No, there are some growing pains at the margins. Feel free to react strongly, but these are not the same.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#124

One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

> Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts.

Or just a post from a non-native speaker.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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post #100

This is an old problem that LLM-generated content only accelerated. LMGTFY died when Google tripled down on growing their ad revenue and adtech dominance and SEO ran rampant throughout search results. It is fairly difficult to get non-biased factual information from a naked query these days, which is why I try to search for info on Reddit first. This isn't a panacea either given that it's been chock-ful of astroturfe…

Finally switched to Kagi when I realized Google could not find a particular ThreeJS class doc page for me no matter what keywords I used, I had to paste the very URL of the page for it to appear at the top of my search results. Kagi got it first try using the class name. Paid search is the way, ad incentives are at odds with search. Made Kagi my address bar default search and it's been great.

Maybe I'll try Kagi. I've had a hell of a time googling docs lately. I've been experimenting with different libraries on somde side projects and it feels like I'm always scrolling past stuff like GeeksForGeeks and various sites that look like some sort of AI generated stuff just to get to official docs or github links.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#126
post #110
post #100

This is an old problem that LLM-generated content only accelerated. LMGTFY died when Google tripled down on growing their ad revenue and adtech dominance and SEO ran rampant throughout search results. It is fairly difficult to get non-biased factual information from a naked query these days, which is why I try to search for info on Reddit first. This isn't a panacea either given that it's been chock-ful of astroturfe…

Finally switched to Kagi when I realized Google could not find a particular ThreeJS class doc page for me no matter what keywords I used, I had to paste the very URL of the page for it to appear at the top of my search results. Kagi got it first try using the class name. Paid search is the way, ad incentives are at odds with search. Made Kagi my address bar default search and it's been great.

So does that mean that the free (as in beer) internet is dying and ad-tech killed it?

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

That’s true. I thought I missed the internet before ClosedAI ruined it but man, I would love to go back to 2020 internet now. LLM research is going to be the downfall of society in so many ways. Even at a basic level my friend is taking a masters and EVERYONE is using chatgpt for responses. It’s so obvious with the PC way it phrases things and then summarizes it at the end. I hope they just get expelled.

I don't see how this points to downfall of society. IMO it's clearly a paradigm shift that we need to adjust to and adjustment periods are uncomfortable and can last a long time. LLMs are massive productivity boosters.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

#129
post #33

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Going to? It already has. I get about 50 articles for software fixes that have a lot of hot garbage in them before getting to the point. For example I had a discord issue and instead of laying out a fix, the “article” apparently needed a multi paragraph ChatGPT explanation of what discord is before even attempting to show remedies.

People like to make fun of the "2000 word backstory before actually getting to the recipe" about cooking sites, but now I'm finding it with everything. Tried to find news about Baldurs Gate cross-play, and stumbled my way through a giant incoherent mess of an article that had nothing to do with the title.

It’s really infuriating because you constantly feel like they’re about to get to the point.

Maybe as a protest I’ve been hammering on bottom-line-up-front in all of our team communications.

Re: The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

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One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

LLM trash is one thing but if you follow OP link all I see is the headline and a giant subscribe takeover. Whenever I see trash sites like this I block the domain from my network. The growth hack culture is what ruins content. Kind of similar to when authors started phoning in lots of articles (every newspaper) or even entire books (Crichton for example) to keep publishers happy. If we keep supporting websites like the one above, quality will continue to degrade.
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