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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by jtriangle » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #117

jtriangle wrote: post #53

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The party doesn't matter, government regulation is mostly allowed to exist at the behest of defacto monopolies. It sure as hell isn't the common man making these things happen, nor is it people who represent us in a meaningful way. It does play into their hands perfectly to blame 'the Republicans' or 'the Democrats', and it does indeed make the problem seem more solvable, easy solution right? Vote out the other guy,…

I don't know how you can see GOP behavior, in Congress, the courts, and (when they have it) the White House, and overlook the radical anti-regulation, pro-corruption and power policies and actions.

You don't know how, simply because I do not. I just see the manipulation of regulation, which includes, but is certainly not limited to, removing regulation, from all politicians.

From there it's a simple manner of looking up who their donors are, and, it should come at no surprise to anyone, that the money that's behind these people comes from entities that directly benefit from their actions.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by nsteel » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 10:52 PM UTC

zamadatix wrote: post #96

nsteel wrote: post #66

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> a combined 90% market share. I was under the impression Juniper market share had been falling consistently. But it sounds like there is a market where they are still doing well, what is it? Enterprise something?

Juniper is still decently popular in their core routing business. On k12 and small enterprise they've had good fortune with their Mist acquisition. I think the latter was honestly the main driver for the merger. I think GP was trying to say a few network companies are buying everything up not that Juniper had a majority share itself though. Look at the merger graphs for Cisco, HPE (adding in Juniper's now), and Extre…

Ah, that interpretation makes more sense than mine, thank you!

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by wolverine876 » Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 11:02 PM UTC

jtriangle wrote: post #121

wolverine876 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how you can see GOP behavior, in Congress, the courts, and (when they have it) the White House, and overlook the radical anti-regulation, pro-corruption and power policies and actions.

You don't know how, simply because I do not. I just see the manipulation of regulation, which includes, but is certainly not limited to, removing regulation, from all politicians. From there it's a simple manner of looking up who their donors are, and, it should come at no surprise to anyone, that the money that's behind these people comes from entities that directly benefit from their actions.

> simply because I do not. I just see the manipulation of regulation, which includes, but is certainly not limited to, removing regulation, from all politicians.

You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but not to your own facts. If you don't know the facts - and if you are interested in regulation, especially those facts - then that's your mistake and will lead to other mistakes.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by usr1106 » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 7:21 AM UTC

KeplerBoy wrote: post #65

usr1106 wrote: post #24

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Why only 90%? For smart phone operating systems it's higher I'd assume (not counting China, that's not a free country anyway). Same for desktop computers. A major failure of free market economics that is widely ignored by politics.

>Same for desktop computers. Does it really matter which OEM you buy your Intel or AMD system from? Desktop computers are a market where the 2 top vendors actually have had all the market until Apple entered the scene with its ARM offerings. I'm excited if others will follow with high-end options (Qualcomm and Nvidia).

Oh right. I meant desktop computer operating systems.

But desktop computer chipsets is the same mess. We can be glad already that there is competition between 2 vendors (1). Some years ago it was probably over 90% Intel.

Servers is not fundamentally better, just with slightly different market shares.

And everything is x86, which is certainly not the optimal solution from several aspects. I wonder whether that would be still alive with some healthy competition between at least a dozen of vendors.

Edit: (1) 2 plus Apple, which is better than only 2, but sti not fully free competition. Few people choose Apple because of their chipset.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by pavelstoev » Mon, Jan 22, 2024, 4:07 PM UTC

redrix wrote: post #61

pavelstoev wrote: post #6

Happy Juniper customer since 2010. Across SRX, EX, QFX lines. What to do now, what to do...

> Across SRX Good lord. I don’t know whether I respect or pity you. There used to be a saying at Juniper: If there was an issue with MX, it was likely a config issue. If there was an issue with SRX it was likely a bug. Was incredibly accurate more often than not. I miss Netscreen.

I have an SRX1400 cluster with nearly 11 years of uptime. But this is the bare metal BSD-based firewall. When later, Juniper started adding a hypervisor layer on SRX platforms, and I started having problems.