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Re: Internet Sacred Text Archive

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To support a compilation effort? I just don’t think that effort is worth how much they’re charging for it.

I basically said 'why pay if it's free?', Not 'why not pay?'. It's free to read as you have stated, yet you want to own it, yet you don't want to pay any significant amount for it. I suspect that if they charged $10 for it you still wouldn't be happy.

I don’t want to “own” it. I want to reward the compiler. You suspect incorrectly.

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That’s tautological. We observe the effects, and assume they must propagate backwards under rules we think we know, then say that the theory must be true because we observe the current state is the forward propagation under those same assumed rules. It’s unfalsifiable and accordingly uninteresting.

The reason why we assume the same rules is because 1) we haven't observed anything that implies that they changed, and 2) if we assume that they did change, then any attempt to figure out what really happened is moot anyway. From a religious perspective, there's a take in e.g. some mainstream Islamic madhabs that time is an illusion that is caused by God literally recreating the entire universe moment after moment. H…

It would be silly to assume that the criteria that yields a law (or a system) be itself subject to that law or system. Logically, that criteria must encompass the system and cannot at all be subject to it

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You would probably enjoy Nietzsche's "Eternal recurrence"

Which was in turn strongly informed by the Epicurean version by way of Lucretius. Both of which really fail to think through the concept in light of their views of continued evolution. If humanity is but a stepping stone to something greater, then the initial events would predate its emergence but the recurrence would postdate its existence. So the rejection of divine involvement or role in our existence based on the…

Late reply, thanks for good points, esp. the position of Lucretius in bridging the Greeks. I imagine Nietzsche unable to recognise a total contradiction in his philosophy as problematic, but rather saying "I'm all too human too" :) respects

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#124

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I basically said 'why pay if it's free?', Not 'why not pay?'. It's free to read as you have stated, yet you want to own it, yet you don't want to pay any significant amount for it. I suspect that if they charged $10 for it you still wouldn't be happy.

I don’t want to “own” it. I want to reward the compiler. You suspect incorrectly.

Rare, and laudable. My apologies.

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> The Gospel of Thomas Reputedly the writings of the apostle ‘Doubting Thomas’. This text purports to be a collection of the sayings of Jesus. Traditionally Thomas was Jesus’ twin brother. This text shows strong Gnostic influence. I'll admit I'm not deeply familiar with most religious traditions, but I am absolutely sure none of the major ones have any "tradition" in which Jesus had a twin brother. Yes, "Thomas" mean…

What else can you tell us about the historicity Jesus? And how is it you are able to say anything about this person that is purported to have lived 2000 years ago?

Approximately a third of the people on earth belong to some sort of Christian religion. The virginity of Mary, the mother of Jesus, at least at the time of His conception, is a Very Big Deal to all of them, as are the stories around His birth.

The prospect of the tradition(s)' having missed something as blatantly obvious as the birth of a second son at the exact same time is ridiculous.

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> The Gospel of Thomas Reputedly the writings of the apostle ‘Doubting Thomas’. This text purports to be a collection of the sayings of Jesus. Traditionally Thomas was Jesus’ twin brother. This text shows strong Gnostic influence. I'll admit I'm not deeply familiar with most religious traditions, but I am absolutely sure none of the major ones have any "tradition" in which Jesus had a twin brother. Yes, "Thomas" mean…

Like the other commenter said, The Gospel of Thomas is a real religious scripture from a date very early in the Christian era. When Origen, Eusebius, and the other Church Fathers decided which texts and doctrines were properly Christian, they didn't include the Gospel of Thomas. Assuming they were aware of Thomas at all, they would have judged its content to be heretical. It's likely, though, that Thomas' readers saw…

Yes, I'm well aware of this. But this doesn't have anything to do with the fact that no one thinks Thomas was literally the twin brother of Jesus.

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> The Gospel of Thomas Reputedly the writings of the apostle ‘Doubting Thomas’. This text purports to be a collection of the sayings of Jesus. Traditionally Thomas was Jesus’ twin brother. This text shows strong Gnostic influence. I'll admit I'm not deeply familiar with most religious traditions, but I am absolutely sure none of the major ones have any "tradition" in which Jesus had a twin brother. Yes, "Thomas" mean…

You’re not familiar with this text or gnosticism. GPT-4: “In Gnostic texts, particularly those found in the Nag Hammadi library, Thomas is often referred to as "Didymos Judas Thomas." The name "Didymos" is Greek for "twin," and "Thomas" is Aramaic for "twin." In the Gospel of Thomas, one of the Gnostic gospels, Thomas is depicted as having a special understanding or connection to Jesus, but the text does not explicit…

What part of where I said I knew that "Thomas" means "the twin," and that no one but apparently whoever wrote this website blurb about this Gnostic gospel has ever thought Jesus had a twin brother suggested to you that I was commenting on the work itself, much less Gnosticism as a whole?

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#128

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See the Bibliography section at his Wikipedia page that I linked above. From there: One is The Bhagavad Gita: >The Bhagavadgītā: with an introductory essay, Sanskrit text, English translation and notes (1948), 388 pages Another is The Principal Upanishads, also by him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principal_Upanishads You could also check out another option for the Bhagavad Gita, by Eknath Easwaran. And other…

One more: The Flight of the Alone to the Alone, by Osho. It is about the Kaivalya Upanishad: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaivalya_Upanishad https://www.google.com/search?q=flight+of+the+alone+to+the+a... https://www.sannyas.wiki/index.php?title=Flight_of_the_Alone... I have read that book. It is good.

Thank you for all your recommendations. I appreciate it.

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Let’s just make our own. I’ve always thought we should come up with a new religion around quantum immortality. Some basic thoughts could be: Since you are the only immortal one from your point of view, all of your loved ones will die before you, so don’t worry too much about meddling in their affairs or changing them, just love them unconditionally. Your time with them is brief, so you may as well enjoy it. Make good…

You would probably enjoy Nietzsche's "Eternal recurrence"

So here you are, advocating the philosophy of antisemites.

Looking at your comment history, this is not surprising.

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#130

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One more: The Flight of the Alone to the Alone, by Osho. It is about the Kaivalya Upanishad: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaivalya_Upanishad https://www.google.com/search?q=flight+of+the+alone+to+the+a... https://www.sannyas.wiki/index.php?title=Flight_of_the_Alone... I have read that book. It is good.

Thank you for all your recommendations. I appreciate it.

You are welcome :)
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