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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#122

From yesterday's Firefox thread: Firefox has multiple compelling reasons to use it: Sync[1] only what you allow, bookmarks/history/extensions/etc Containers keep sites separated nicely[2] Tree Style Tabs[3] uBlock Origin on Android[4] Open Source since 1998! Not based on Chromium [1] Be wary of sync on a fresh Linux install, it might sync the default bookmarks and merge them with your own. Not a huge deal but definit…

On [5]: It's not that Mozilla named their UI "Chrome", but that "chrome" is a graphical user interface word. For a browser it refers to the stuff around the web page content, but it's more general than browser use (you could refer to Blender's chrome around the 3D viewports to refer to its toolbars, etc). i.e. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Chrome

I still hate Google for naming their browser Chrome for that reason. They made a perfectly good and useful UI term almost unusable.

Ironically, the modern web also led to UI chrome being harder and harder to distinguish even in native applications.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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post #92

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

This is a funny comment - why'd you leave Firefox to have to come back to it?

If GP is anything like me, they used Firefox before Chrome was released. The Mozilla/Netscape suite that spawned Firefox is older than Google itself.

For a time, Firefox performed worse than a rabid dog. Chrome ate their lunch and gained market share fast. I and many of my colleagues switched around that time.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#124

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…

I don't mind breaking websites, if I can fix them on my own terms.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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post #79

As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…

Same, it's simply easier to use Safari on my phone and Mac. The performance is fantastic, syncing is perfect, and switching between the two devices is effortless. If I used windows or Linux I would probably give it a try again.

Not to mention on iOS your choices are really between Safari and Safari with a different skin.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Already did a few years ago. My only current annoyances with it are that the NixOS search page is blank in it for some reason, at least on Nightly (https://search.nixos.org/packages) and that I can't access its password store on iOS. (iOS added Google Chrome password access from any app's GUI right around the time I switched from Chrome to Firefox... UGH)

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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post #33

My family uses Apple's keypass for everything password. Is there an easy way to get passwords working like Safari? I currently do Search Passwords, Search website, Copy password, Paste in Firefox manually.

There is not, unfortunately.

Apple has an extension for Chrome ("iCloud Passwords") that lets you use the keychain passwords there, but nothing for Firefox. It's less-restrictive than it used to be, since the extension used to only support Chrome on Windows, but they gave in back in July of this year and made it easier to use Chrome on Mac.

Apparently, Firefox removed a bunch of password-related APIs back in Firefox 57 that broke some existing keychain extensions[1], so it might not be Apple's fault that they've not provided a Firefox extension. There's no progress on Firefox bugs related to making such an extension possible again, that I could see.[2]

[1]: https://github.com/jfitzell/mozilla-keychain/issues/88

[2]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1650212

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

#130
No. Plus the browser engines argument is...meh. Webkit and Chromium are open source. Why not build on top of that? What's the added value of having more than one rendering engine? All the arguments are talking about major browsers. Why not mention other, non major browsers? Oh I know why, because those are actually pretty decent alternatives and you wouldn't want to have to explain why Firefox against those as your case would be weaker.
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