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Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

PedroBatista wrote: post #14

This Mozilla "situation" comes up here from time to time, unfortunately as a long time Firefox user all I have to say is: Mitchell Baker and their clique will only leave when Mozilla is completely dead and even by that time she'll retire and will make a wonderful post about her "legacy" in opensource and the Web. I will not go further because it will turn into an all-bashing post, but Mozilla ( as you like to think o…

I’ve lead those threads in the past with hopes that someone would give a glimmer of hope

Honestly, this news/post made me lose the final shred of hope I had.

:/

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by irrational »

runjake wrote: post #93
PedroBatista wrote: post #14

This Mozilla "situation" comes up here from time to time, unfortunately as a long time Firefox user all I have to say is: Mitchell Baker and their clique will only leave when Mozilla is completely dead and even by that time she'll retire and will make a wonderful post about her "legacy" in opensource and the Web. I will not go further because it will turn into an all-bashing post, but Mozilla ( as you like to think o…

The article states that Mozilla is far from dying and that it’s diversifying itself away from Firefox.

Away from Firefox? They don't have anything useful other than Firefox. Trash everything else and devote all resources to Firefox.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by evasb »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #81

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Mitchell Baker was important for Mozilla/Netscape in the past. She was the primary author of Mozilla Public License in 1998 (MPL 2.0 is a very good license). I bet that many of us were just infants when she was at Mozilla.

The problem is that many feel that she is not a good leader for Mozilla today, not that she is not a historical figure for Mozilla and the open source community in general.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by halflings »

wmf wrote: post #85
woodruffw wrote: post #67

In a previous thread (these "Mozilla is dead" threads appear perennially) someone pointed out that Firefox's apparent marketshare drop is potentially indistinguishable from their deployment of privacy-improving features, including stubbing out Google Analytics when "Enhanced Tracking Protection" is enabled. I'm a Firefox user, so I have a vested interest in Mozilla's long term health and financial viability. But "mar…

I would assume that Firefox revenue is proportional to usage and revenue is only down a few percent. This implies that Firefox usage is declining much slower than people say.

Not if you account for the increase in ad revenue from the company paying them.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by woodruffw »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #113
woodruffw wrote: post #67

In a previous thread (these "Mozilla is dead" threads appear perennially) someone pointed out that Firefox's apparent marketshare drop is potentially indistinguishable from their deployment of privacy-improving features, including stubbing out Google Analytics when "Enhanced Tracking Protection" is enabled. I'm a Firefox user, so I have a vested interest in Mozilla's long term health and financial viability. But "mar…

Firefox has all sorts of telemetry reporting so they know exactly how much usage the browser is getting.

It's not clear to me that these numbers come from Firefox's own telemetry. I couldn't find the graphs in either of the reports on their own page.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by locallost »

CharlesW wrote: post #53

Governments have been creating web/native/mobile apps for some time, which is a trend that continues to accelerate. Firefox continues to limp along but seemingly can't even retain its most ardent fans, and there's no sign of this changing. What if the EU were to fork Firefox (Openfox?) and fund its evolution of a privacy-first alternative? Among other benefits, this would: • Help ensure that key digital infrastructur…

That's a pretty neat idea. I don't know if the people in power would get all of that, but I think you could sell them on balancing the US's influence.

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by sjfjsjdjwvwvc »

LightHugger wrote: post #23
baal80spam wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their mission isn't to create a browser Aaaand that's why I don't use Firefox.

As long as you use something better, that isnt chrome. Chrome blatant spyware that scans your whole pc ever since google had the bright idea of sneaking an "antivirus" into chrome and enabling it by default. Firefox is better that chrome, but there's lots better than firefox.

What would be an example of something better that isn’t chromium based?

Re: Mozilla 2023 annual report: CEO pay skyrockets, Firefox market share nosedives

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Post by richbell »

wredue wrote: post #72
phpisthebest wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm only aware of his views against gay marriage. Do you have more info on him being openly racist and sexist? Searching for his name + racist or sexist doesn't seem to yield any results.

Off topic, but I think your edit is against the spirit of HN and weakens your comment.

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