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PrimeVue
Flowbite
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Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
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Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm still amazed they're asking for $299 for this! That’s like the cost of 1 front end developer day, and you get so many useful components + future updates. If you see it as a business expense it’s great value.
It's terrible value when compared to the other offerings in the market which come as complete JS components and are free. Also tailwind UI doesn't come with figma designs, whereas all the other free ones do. You're just paying a brand tax here.
Do the other offerings you're refering to use tailwind css?
In that case I'm also paying for continued development by the tailwind team, unlike the free offerings. I don't mind that free toolkits use tailwind, that's the beauty of the MIT license, but I do value paying something to the creators to ensure continued development. Especially if my business makes enough money from it.
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#123This is an unbelievably unfinished UI library. Especially with a price tag. A limited set of components with very little attention to detail. For example, the buttons lack the active state completely. Why would I pay €250 for something I can find easily for free?
It's so easy to use! Plug-n-play, CSS technical debt, "production-ready", easy to customise, a single button is ONLY 1932 bytes of information, lean! /s I was _about_ to praise it for at least being tabbable, but the example of "Team members" does not work with keyboard-only navigation... great stuff.
Hmm? That one works just fine, the dropdowns are regular and those are the only focusable pieces.
Now something you can definitely complain about is the dialog not submitting with Enter.
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#124Why does Tailwind not build framework agnostic UI components? The best thing about Tailwind is everyone can use it. Wish we could go back to the days of building for the web and not building for React.
> Why does Tailwind not build framework agnostic UI components?
They do. As part of the original TailwindUI product you get UI component templates where you can choose between React, Vue or plain HTML (= framework agnostic!) versions of the source.
However the React version is essentially a big monolithic template, which is what they are trying to address with Catalyst, where those templates are being split up into components (+ other improvements).
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#125Am I missing something? It looks like this is incredibly unfinished.
You aren't missing anything except that Catalyst is included in the Tailwind UI lifetime license that many HN readers bought years ago so this is likely from an "insider" email campaign, rather than a marketing landing page for a standalone product. It's not meant for general consumption yet.
Yeah, I think the post link should have been their announcement post, which gives some more context: https://tailwindcss.com/blog/introducing-catalyst
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#126What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing?
The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI.
I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer for a day, and you get a bunch of usable components + future upgrades.
Usually HN isn't as negative about revenue streams for open-source developers.
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#127What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing? The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI. I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer f…
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Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#128This is an unbelievably unfinished UI library. Especially with a price tag. A limited set of components with very little attention to detail. For example, the buttons lack the active state completely. Why would I pay €250 for something I can find easily for free?
I've paid the 250, you don't just get these, but also lots of others: landing, components, docs sites etc.
In 10 years time I've used a decent share of templates, but these I've enjoyed most by far and gotten the best user reactions from.
Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#129What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing? The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI. I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer f…
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Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit
#130This is an unbelievably unfinished UI library. Especially with a price tag. A limited set of components with very little attention to detail. For example, the buttons lack the active state completely. Why would I pay €250 for something I can find easily for free?
You are welcome to do it for free. The entire point of an UI library is to save time.. you can technically build anything you want for free if you don't value your time. This UI library sped up my dev time at least two-fold. The components and sample landing pages provided are really great IMO (and judging by their sales, it's not just me who agrees).
Point being it's incomplete and so you spend money AND time.