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Or the reality is, if someone wants your dna they will follow you around and grab a coffee cup.
Yes, yours specifically, but what if I want like 200.000 people so I can find one that has a DNA profile similar to mine, who could serve as a escape-goat or victim? Maybe I want to steal a kidney, or a child that could reasonably pass as my own?
Unless this is an online joke I don't get, I think you mean "scapegoat".
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> If you do not notify us within 30 days, you will be deemed to have agreed to the new terms. WTF. This is outrageous. And I had find that email in my spam after I read this comment. Hope this POS company goes down in flames after this.
But they hold your DNA hostage. Don't you want this company to exist on so nobody gets hurt. Oh, they peaked and leaked that's why the users get TOSsed. Carry on, Sir, baldly into a classy action lawsuit against a bankrupt company were some zeroday employee will get the biggest payout by insurance ever.
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They usually put that exact thing into the ToS. The right to change it at any time.
Ahh ok this sounds like a thing that’s OK in the USA but not EU :-/
> "Besides the general requirements of 'good faith' and 'balance', the EU rules contain a list of specific contract terms that may be judged unfair.
> Here are some situations where contract terms may be judged unfair under EU rules:
> [...]
> - Terms which allow you to alter a contract unilaterally unless the contract states a valid reason for doing so."
https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers...
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Exactly. Same reason construction vehicles have "Stay back 200 feet: not responsible for broken windshields" written on the back.
Yep. A small tangent for anyone who has seen these: they’re very clearly not specifically enforceable. I got a window banged up by things falling off a truck with this signage, and the first thing they said when I called their “How Am I Driving” number the first thing they said was that they were not responsible citing this sign. Fortunately that sign was non binding. :)
To duck out of the new ToS, just write this email to legal@23andme.com-- To Whom It May Concern: My name is [name], and my 23andMe account is under the email [email]. I am writing to declare that I do not agree to the new terms of service at https://www.23andme.com/legal/terms-of-service/ .
I would have presumed that security-minded people, which includes those who work in tech, would not so easily give away their genome, and that most of 23andMe's customers are a slice of the general population. But then I read about things like WorldCoin and that people who go to startup parties jump at the chance to give away scans of their retinas and I'm befuddled. Why would anyone willingly do that?
You didn't need to supply accurate information, this isn't a bank here with any validation of your identity.
The only missing piece is a way to scan your DNA as part of a login form.
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I wonder if they can use things like opt out data to find a way screen for genetic markers of "troublemakers" or similar. DNA driven targeted advertising that finds only the most docile consumers.
They can't tell you your eye color from their DNA data with any degree of confidence, and you seriously expect them to be able to find a marker of something as vague as "troublemakers" ?!
I'm not a lawyer but I doubt that this will matter in the court because the time of actions matter; or in another words at the time when user registered they agreed to TOS A and later when 23andMe changed their TOS A to TOS B they achieved nothing because you can't unregister users and register them again and force them to agree to the new TOS B. I mean they can ask you to agree to new TOS but you don't have to becau…
Additionally they sent an email out saying that you have 30 days yo tell them you want to "opt out" otherwise by default they assume you accept the new TOS agreement.