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Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by jjav »

DavideNL wrote: post #66

Anyone else here also still using LogitechMediaServer (and iPeng) to stream their own music? Such an old system (written in Perl), but still runs great! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_Media_Server https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver https://hub.docker.com/r/lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver

> Such an old system (written in Perl), but still runs great!

This is the kind of hardware I love. Stable over time, no dependencies. I moved all my music to squeezebox system in 2004 and everything works wonderfully today.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

BobaFloutist wrote: post #101
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #29

> as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows. Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it…

Content I have bought and downloaded should be as irrevocable as a book on my bookshelf. "Licensed" is a made up word. Did I buy it? It's mine. Did I rent it? It's no longer mine after the rental period is over. End of story.

Licensed isn't any more made up than buy and rent, all words are made up.

Being able to articulate what exactly you are allowed to do with something you buy is a useful legal fiction, much like property rights, contracts, and all of the other useful legal fictions we enforce on the world.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by joemi »

JohnFen wrote: post #120
joemi wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your argument as stated here ("this is complex because the system of legal rights is complex"). I guess your example seemed to me to be an endorsement of relying on the creators opinion and not the rights-holder in cases where they are not the same, and I was arguing against that (assumed?) endorsement. The fact that the creators are not necessarily the sellers is at the heart of a lot of pro-piracy argu…

> I guess your example seemed to me to be an endorsement of relying on the creators opinion and not the rights-holder in cases where they are not the same, and I was arguing against that (assumed?) endorsement. I was not endorsing anything. My intent was to tell an interesting anecdote that illustrated the complexity of rights. Sorry for the confusion. My personal attitude (not endorsing it, though!) is that the arti…

I'm not sure what the difference is between one's personal attitude (voluntarily made public) and one's endorsement. IMO they are one in the same. I only bring this up because you've made the point to say you're not endorsing what you personally believe.

Why would the artists be the only people who really count, when they made an agreement to let the someone else handle the selling? Doesn't that by default mean that what the artist _wanted_ was to let someone else handle the selling?

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by tmtvl »

pimlottc wrote: post #70
sertbdfgbnfgsd wrote: post #22

- Download mp3 - Play on VLC. Not complicated.

It’s not that simple for the poster’s use case, which is “play whatever my kids want to hear while we’re in the car”

Buy MP3, download, burn CD, play in car. Kids can choose any CD that's in the car or regular radio.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by llm_nerd »

vimax wrote: post #103
llm_nerd wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A tiny musician withdrew their music, so I'm not sure how relevant breaking up mega firms is. In cases like this, a creator puts their own music on a service like Amuse. They or that service (acting as their "publisher") removed it, which removes Apple's right to stream it. Apple didn't take away this guy's Ladybug Music.

But Apple sure did market iMusic as a legitimate replacement for owned physical media while never mentioning the the fact you don't own it and it may disappear at any time. That fact is only mentioned buried somewhere in the EULA, and only popularized by people like the EFF and the victims.

This person didn't own this music in iTunes. They are using Apple Music, which is a subscription service that has a fluctuating catalog of music. Right now there are some 100 million songs.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by bloomingeek »

Semaphor wrote: post #64
bloomingeek wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's your proof? Show it and I'll gladly quit buying from them.

If you think bands actually sell albums on one site for $2 that they sell for $10 everywhere else, then I guess you can just go and keep believing. I just think it might be better to not support sites like that and instead torrent directly for free. No need to sealion.

Still waiting. Maybe you should go and look again in the comic strip you got the reference from?

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by derwiki »

Syonyk wrote: post #2

Yup. Sound right. The time spent re-ripping my CD collection to FLAC, my DVD collection to MKV, etc, has been well spent. I can rapidly enough transcode from that to "Whatever I happen to need for where I'm listening to it," and our vehicles have quite the range of local music and audiobook content for road trips that doesn't rely on streaming anything. You can get CDs for (usually) very little on eBay, same for DVDs…

eBay aside, my city’s library has a shockingly large collection of CDs and DVDs! Although i guess that’s technically closer to piracy.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by derwiki »

LiquidPolymer wrote: post #94
JohnFen wrote: post #8

Music is very important to me. So important that I never dared to trust streaming services. Not only do they require an internet connection (something that is not always available), but if the service experiences downtime, license changes, etc., that music is not available. If I'm going to spend my money on music, I'm going to spend it on music in a form that isn't reliant on the ongoing operation of some service som…

I collect portable music players and hi-fi gear. The music gives me great joy, but the hardware also gives me joy. I’m likely an outlier in this realm. I pre-ordered my new Peter Gabriel I/0 album two months ago on CD and enjoyed the anticipation of waiting. I steadfastly avoided his digital pre-releases. I was not disappointed! It a great album and a beautiful sonic experience. I took a couple of my favorite tracks…

That last line tempts me to fly with an audio cassette player this holiday season

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by xethos »

derwiki wrote: post #128
LiquidPolymer wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I collect portable music players and hi-fi gear. The music gives me great joy, but the hardware also gives me joy. I’m likely an outlier in this realm. I pre-ordered my new Peter Gabriel I/0 album two months ago on CD and enjoyed the anticipation of waiting. I steadfastly avoided his digital pre-releases. I was not disappointed! It a great album and a beautiful sonic experience. I took a couple of my favorite tracks…

That last line tempts me to fly with an audio cassette player this holiday season

My previous TSA agent was thoroughly thrown by my (blade-removed) shavette while travelling with carry-on only. To the point I called out "Oh! Sorry, I already pulled the blade out." while they were examining it.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by devilbunny »

verve_rat wrote: post #104
pkdpic wrote: post #60

Glad to see this pop up, its been a weirdly big struggle for me as a new-ish parent. For a while my ancient CD collection and healthy ecosystem of local used vinyl / CD stores had us in a nice routine in conjunction with youtube-dl and my posse of old Sony voice memo usb mp3 players. Then youtube-dl wasn't a thing anymore (maybe it is again?)... Then we had to get a new car (a Tacoma)... No CD player, no aux cable. I…

Try an fm transmitter? Plug it into a 12v socket (cigarette lighter socket) and plug the audio cable into the headphones jack. Tune the radio to the set frequency. Bob's your uncle. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=fm+transmitter+for+car&crid=XYUJ3...

A Bluetooth transmitter would have much better quality and not have to move around the spectrum manually. FM transmitters are a simple technology but in practice are worse than a classic compact cassette adapter.
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