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Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

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post #74

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unfortunately too big for the broader community to test. Will be very interesting to see how well it performs compared to the large models

Not really, looks like a ~40B class model which is very runnable.

It's actually ~13B class at runtime. 2B for attention is shared across each expert and then it runs 2 experts at a time.

So 2B for attention + 5Bx2 for inference = 12B in RAM at runtime.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

#127
post #93

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> I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, can't wait to try this on my desktop. That seems kinda low, are you using Metal GPU acceleration with llama.cpp? I don't have a macbook, but saw some of the llama.cpp benchmarks that suggest it can reach close to 30tk/s with GPU acceleration.

Thanks for the tip. I'm on the M2 Air with 16 GB's of ram. If anyone has faster than 12tkps on Air's let me know. I'm using the LM Studio GUI over llama.cpp with the "Apple Metal GPU" option. Increasing CPU threads seemingly does nothing either without metal. Ram usage hovers at 5.5GB with a q5_k_m of Mistral.

Try different quantization variations. I got vastly different speeds depending on which quantization I chose. I believe q4_0 worked very well for me. Although for a 7B model q8_0 runs just fine too with better quality.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

#128

Who know if I can run this on MBC Pro M3 max 128gb? at what TPS?

If I understand correctly:

RAM Wise, you can easily run a 70b with 128GB, 8x7B is obviously less than that.

Compute wise, I suppose it would be a bit slower than running a 13b.

edit: "actually", I think it might be faster than a 13b. 8 random 7b ~= 115GB, Mixtral is under 90. I will have to wait for more info/understanding.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

#129
post #37

Mistral sure does not bother too much with explanations, but this style gives me much more confidence in the product than Google's polished, corporate, soulless announcement of Gemini!

I will take weights over docs. Its does remind me how some Google employee was bragging that they disclosed the weights for the Gemini, and only the small mobile Gemini, as if that's a generous step over other companies.

I don't think that's true, because quite simply, they have not.

I am 100% in agreement with your viewpoint, but feel squeamish seeing an un-needed lie coupled to it to justify it. Just so much Othering these days.

Re: Mistral "Mixtral" 8x7B 32k model [magnet]

#130

Hot take but Mistral 7B is the actual state of the art of LLM's. ChatGPT 4 is amazing yes and i've been a day 1 subscriber, but it's huge, runs on server farms far away and is more or less a black box. Mistral is tiny, and amazingly coherent and useful for it's size for both general questions and code, uncensored, and a leap i wouldn't have believed possible in just a year. I can run it on my Macbook Air at 12tkps, c…

it really is. it feels at the very least equal to llama2 13b. if mistral 70b had existed and was as much an improvement over llama2 70b as it is at 7b size, it would definitely be on part with gpt3.5
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