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Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? This unfortunate behavior is well described by Wadler's Law: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Wadlers_Law

This is great, thanks. The only logical conclusion is that engineers should be choosing tools that have the least syntactical surface area to argue over. :)

Whatever you do, don't go looking for the discussions that happened around scheme r6rs...

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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post #33

There's something horribly wrong with everything about this. Why is such a smart person as Crockford wasting his time arguing about semicolons in 2012? Why is this at the top of the most popular hacker website? Why are people writing detailed opinions about semicolons in this thread (with surely more to come?) One would hope that at least over time the bike sheds being argued about would start to at least evolve into…

>There's something horribly wrong with everything about this. Why is such a smart person as Crockford wasting his time arguing about semicolons in 2012?

The disturbing thing is the idiot arguing about implicit semicolons in a language with not good support for them, in a general use library.

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

#123
What a child... Has anyone read the GitHub style guide? 'Do your best to never use a semicolon. This means avoiding them at line breaks and avoiding multi-statement lines.'

Grow up Crockford. Do research before you post. Stop assuming because you supposedly once knew how to do something, you still do, and always will. Times change.

However, this is all very exciting. It gives Twitter, or whatever other start up, an opportunity to replace an outdated piece of software by a nut case!

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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What a child... Has anyone read the GitHub style guide? 'Do your best to never use a semicolon. This means avoiding them at line breaks and avoiding multi-statement lines.' Grow up Crockford. Do research before you post. Stop assuming because you supposedly once knew how to do something, you still do, and always will. Times change. However, this is all very exciting. It gives Twitter, or whatever other start up, an o…

Why do you believe the github style guide to be the authoritative source for JavaScript style? There is no benefit for avoiding use of semicolons other than not writing semicolons, whereas there are several detriments for their omission.

> It gives Twitter, or whatever other start up, an opportunity to replace an outdated piece of software by a nut case!

I don't know where this ad-hominem is coming from, but Douglas Crockford is hardly a nutcase.

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

#125

What a child... Has anyone read the GitHub style guide? 'Do your best to never use a semicolon. This means avoiding them at line breaks and avoiding multi-statement lines.' Grow up Crockford. Do research before you post. Stop assuming because you supposedly once knew how to do something, you still do, and always will. Times change. However, this is all very exciting. It gives Twitter, or whatever other start up, an o…

Google style guide says otherwise: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/javascript...

If people hate semi-colons with such a passion, why not simply use coffeescript and be done with it instead of depending on butterflies flapping their wings...

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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post #49
post #33

There's something horribly wrong with everything about this. Why is such a smart person as Crockford wasting his time arguing about semicolons in 2012? Why is this at the top of the most popular hacker website? Why are people writing detailed opinions about semicolons in this thread (with surely more to come?) One would hope that at least over time the bike sheds being argued about would start to at least evolve into…

Jacob ("fat") comes off looking far worse than Crockford, to my eyes (and that Kit character seems to be 7 years old). It's the arrogance and stupidity of youth facing the crotchety crankiness of experience. Crockford has earned the right to have a strong opinion here IMO. But it's not just bike-shedding. It's more pernicious than that. It's actually something that looks like bike-shedding to uninformed observers, bu…

No one ever earns the right to be a jerk. Crockford can have a strong opinion all he wants, but if he wants people to continue looking up to him, he will explain and conduct himself in a civil and professional manner.

No one won in this situation, but Crockford should know better by now.

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

#127
post #33

There's something horribly wrong with everything about this. Why is such a smart person as Crockford wasting his time arguing about semicolons in 2012? Why is this at the top of the most popular hacker website? Why are people writing detailed opinions about semicolons in this thread (with surely more to come?) One would hope that at least over time the bike sheds being argued about would start to at least evolve into…

Why? This unfortunate behavior is well described by Wadler's Law: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Wadlers_Law

Few people truly understand the semantics of a language, but everyone knows why indexing from 1 is bad.

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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What a child... Has anyone read the GitHub style guide? 'Do your best to never use a semicolon. This means avoiding them at line breaks and avoiding multi-statement lines.' Grow up Crockford. Do research before you post. Stop assuming because you supposedly once knew how to do something, you still do, and always will. Times change. However, this is all very exciting. It gives Twitter, or whatever other start up, an o…

You're honestly telling Douglas Crockford to "do research" before posting on the topic of automatic semicolon insertion?

Re: Crockford on Bootstrap's semicolon omission: “insanely stupid code”

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post #109
post #33

There's something horribly wrong with everything about this. Why is such a smart person as Crockford wasting his time arguing about semicolons in 2012? Why is this at the top of the most popular hacker website? Why are people writing detailed opinions about semicolons in this thread (with surely more to come?) One would hope that at least over time the bike sheds being argued about would start to at least evolve into…

I found the whole discussion quite sad, the stupid animated GIFs in particular. I became even more sad when I noticed the discussion is being held on GitHub, not Reddit or 4chan. Scrolled through, won't participate. I'd much rather build interesting application.

So, how does it work for you, this missing out on all the (trivial sometimes) fun?
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