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Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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There's a direct media stream that VLC can open (with network stream): https://prod-ec-us-west-2.video.pscp.tv/Transcoding/v1/hls/O... ---- Much better quality, slightly better latency. Seems like it comes from the Periscope transcoding infrastructure. Found it on reddit here: https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/17uyblj/rspacex_int...

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Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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Super Heavy/1st stage exploded after separation and turn. The important part, Starship/2nd stage, was doing fine but appears to have been eaten by the Space Ghoul around T+10 min.

Looks like it's not doing fine anymore.

It's firing nominally on all engines up in rocket heaven

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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Second stage lost, looks like the flight termination system did its job. Unknown as to why yet. Going to be very very interesting to see the data that's released from this as well as all the higher quality video/stills that surface.

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In space you want the things to blow hard and early. No one wants Boing 737 Max lurking in the vehicle.

They fixed previous mistakes and made new ones. Eventually if they don't repeat the same ones they will run out of big mistakes and it will be smooth sailing afterwards.

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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Im not interpreting their message as negative. Something obviously went wrong, the termination system was activated, and it blew up. Thats what it’s supposed to do when activated.

>Im not interpreting their message as negative.

But shouldn't it be interpreted as negative? It blew up.

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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Who else can land and reuse boosters? Learning from repeated failure and incremental improvements made it possible.

They'll get there with Starship too, if not too obstructed by red tape or unrelated Twitter/politics stuff.

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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- Starship got just below orbit - Booster destroyed during hot staging - SpaceX reporting that destruct system fired on upper stage towards end of burn all in all a pretty good result: clean launch and separation, good performance on the booster during ascent (no engine mishaps this time)

Wonder if hot staging caused issues with both vehicles or it was two separate issues.

I could believe that hot staging might've affected the booster, since it seemed to blow up right as it tried to light the engines again for boostback. But I don't think the ship would've made it so long if it were seriously damaged by the hotstaging.

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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- Starship got just below orbit - Booster destroyed during hot staging - SpaceX reporting that destruct system fired on upper stage towards end of burn all in all a pretty good result: clean launch and separation, good performance on the booster during ascent (no engine mishaps this time)

I can't wait for the next one. How many tests are we expecting? 7-8? Seems to be too long! I wish we had the spirit of the Apollo.

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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And the fact that it survived long enough for the second stage to get on its way was incredible in itself. We'll see how it goes!

Both the booster and ship have been destroyed. SpaceX can keep claiming these RUDs are 'fine' and 'we're getting data', but the rest of the industry does not consider it normal or a "success." Hotstaging didn't "work" until they can demonstrate the Starship vehicle survives orbital insertion, re-entry, and landing without damage or malfunction caused by the hotstaging.

It's been so long that anything new has happened that it's easy to forget what it takes to move things forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qeX98tAS8

Re: Starship Integrated Flight Test 2 at 7 Am Central Time

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Both the booster and ship have been destroyed. SpaceX can keep claiming these RUDs are 'fine' and 'we're getting data', but the rest of the industry does not consider it normal or a "success." Hotstaging didn't "work" until they can demonstrate the Starship vehicle survives orbital insertion, re-entry, and landing without damage or malfunction caused by the hotstaging.

The rest of the industry doesn’t build dozens of ships in a massive assembly line. Blue Origin hasn’t even completed a single full test prototype ship yet. And if you go look at NASA during the Space Race era of the 60s, they blew up plenty of ships.

And there's tons of video about V2 blowing up which is where we got our 1960s tech from
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