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Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by hiepph »

ValtteriL wrote: post #32

I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.

For me, the "Inbox rules" hasn't been working as I expected—some emails doen't end up in the folder that I want. The experience of editing rules feels awkward.

And I cannot "bridge" Thunderbird to Tutanota to apply my filters.

Recent price change was the last straw to make me another end-to-end encrypted alternative.

Recently I switched to Proton Mail with advanced Sieve filter [1] and feel much happier.

[1]: https://proton.me/support/sieve-advanced-custom-filters

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by qweqwe14 »

FireInsight wrote: post #113
qweqwe14 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd personally love to have an E-Mail address ending with nuke.africa. If you can't understand that it's satirical/jokey, I feel bad for you. Some people are way too serious on the Internet. If you are offended by a bunch of words without proper context you really need to go outside. Also see this thread that discusses this at length: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33142122

The problem isn't "some people don't get that it's a joke". The problem is that it's a distasteful joke.

Who's to say that it's distasteful? Humor is very subjective.

I'd also argue that most people that complain about those jokes unironically think that author is actually racist, like it doesn't even cross their mind that it could be a joke, even a "bad" one.

Ironically, the fact that some people react in this way makes these jokes even funnier

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by coderedart »

imiric wrote: post #85
coderedart wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no way mailfence is that privacy friendly. https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/how-cops-c... The police were able to get a lot of info from mailfence to catch a stupid student who thought using a vpn and mailfence would enable him to send threats easily to the richest man in india. The police got info on how many accounts were from this country, how many of them were active, monitor the mail accou…

No reputable email service will allow you to use it to commit crimes. If the activity is against their ToS, and they get a legal warrant to provide information to the authorities, then this goes beyond any reasonable expectation of privacy. Mailfence is pretty open about this[1]. Their privacy policy[2] also seems reasonable. Their only obligation is complying with Belgian law, and I'll take that any day over a servi…

Ah, good to know. Although, Crime means nothing when police can easily just register a fake case and ask to monitor your email id. India has fallen a lot in human rights ranking in this decade.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by O1111OOO »

ValtteriL wrote: post #32

I used Tuta for both private and business use for a couple of years. Switched away because of terrible search experience and lack of SMTP and IMAP access. Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with. This wasted alot of my time. Nowadays using $normalemailprovider with Thunderbird.

> Tuta became understandably a walled garden that my other tools couldn't easily work with.

This is the part that resonates with me very strongly right now. I have always been concerned about privacy, security... re: the applications I use. Recently, I started to question this in regard to some applications.

I needed a WiFi-friendly way to SMS & call for about a year and opted for Signal. The year's over, no longer need Signal. Now I find that I can't delete Signal without losing the (very boring) chat files forever.

Signal does not support exporting, saving chat logs. I looked into 3rd-parties:

1. Great solution by YourFavouriteElite (2 years old) - sadly it failed

https://www.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/irbxii/how_can_i_ex...

2. Two Windows solutions here (failed to run in WINE, will need Windows to test):

https://www.ticktechtold.com/export-signal-pdf-csv-html/

3. Also... I'm finding that I'm having problems communicating with Apple users over regular SMS. I will often not receive their SMS messages unless I turn on WiFi (I'm on Android). This could be several hours after they sent it. I have not bothered to investigate further but it feels like more walled garden stuff, competing protocols, etc..

There just doesn't seem to be a nice 'in-between' between security/privacy and closing yourself off from your data.

'nuf said. I think I'm ranting now mostly because I didn't make the right choice early on for my needs. I just didn't think it through.

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by pentagrama »

> Those who have stored account login credentials in their favorite web browser will need to transfer these credentials to the new domain to continue accessing the account. We have integrated an automatic transfer of the stored credentials, which you simply need to click through: Please visit the old login page "mail.tutanota.com" and you will be prompted to migrate your credentials with a few simple clicks.

I didn't know that this was possible. It is a feature on browser's password managers? How it works?

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by jeo123 »

newscracker wrote: post #109
vincentkriek wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is $normalemailprovider? I have been looking for an alternative that is more standard, but it seems like only Fastmail is big in this space. The rest are small shops that don't convey a lot of confidence.

I usually suggest people to take a look at these: mailbox.org, runbox.com, mailfence.com, posteo.de (this last one doesn’t support custom domains). They’re all cheap enough, provide IMAP and POP, and are located in different countries in Europe.

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Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by type0 »

newscracker wrote: post #108
tharne wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently started using fastmail and am generally please with it. The only downside is that it's based in Australia, a country who's hatred of privacy would make even the NSA blush.

An FYI: Fastmail’s mail servers are located in the U.S.

Australian jurisdiction that can forcefully dictate any kind of spying and US where data stream tapping is the easiest, so it's double bad then

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by Tutanota »

rubber_ducky wrote: post #104
Tutanota wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your feedback. We're planning to re-do the search implementation completely as it needs a major overhaul to quickly search larger mailboxes. We're constantly improving the service, for instance we've just added unlimited email addresses with your own domain ( https://tuta.com/blog/summer-releases-2023 ) so always happy to hear feedback and how we can meet your needs!

Do you have a rough timeline rolling out a better search? It's the biggest issue I have.

There's no exact ETA as we haven't decided whether to do import or improvement of search first. Regardless, it is one of the next to-dos on our list. You can track our roadmap here (we're going to update it soon): https://tuta.com/roadmap

Re: Tutanota is now Tuta

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Post by Tutanota »

abc_xyz wrote: post #61

Tutanota likes to tell everyone that they are literally Signal in the email world in terms of security. But there is a known vulnerability in their "E2EE": https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/768 There is no way to verify key fingerprint of your recipient right now. So server can just man-in-the-middle you providing third-party key and read all messages silently. It is not e2e encryption if you have to trust the…

Key verification is an important part and we are working towards the goal to enable easy authentication. However, we are not happy how manual key verification works with Signal nor how it is implemented with GPG (Web of Trust). Most (at least 95%) don't verify keys with Signal because it is too cumbersome.

As a first step, we are currently addressing cyptographic authentication of incoming messages. Our development team is implementing this feature as part of the work on tuta crypt, our pq messaging protocol. It will be released within the next months. However, we have to admit that easy and automatic key verification will take some more time as we are still researching best options to implement this.

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