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YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#121

I took off adblocking on Youtube just to see if I could get along with continuing to use Youtube in a frictionless way. The answer is no, because Youtube's current crop of ads is full of outright scams and conspiracy theory stuff. Content that would probably be massively de-emphasized by the youtube algorithm or even outright banned is apparently okay to show as long as you pay Google a few thousand dollars to run it…

Please use sponsorblock in addition to whatever you like.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#122

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I hope so, Nebula is great. +1 to reading, also. I used to spend way to much time on "junk food" articles & podcasts on the internet, but switched to reading more books & audiobooks about 5-10 years ago. Much better content-to-fluff ratio.

I used to read a LOT as a kid, but it gradually wound down in adulthood for some reason. Then I tried audio books and man, they're fantastic, esp for non fiction.

Yeah, same. I get through maybe 1-2 paper books or ebooks in a year, but I average 1-2 audiobooks per week, because I can listen to it while driving, walking the dog, cooking food, doing yardwork, etc.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#123

I took off adblocking on Youtube just to see if I could get along with continuing to use Youtube in a frictionless way. The answer is no, because Youtube's current crop of ads is full of outright scams and conspiracy theory stuff. Content that would probably be massively de-emphasized by the youtube algorithm or even outright banned is apparently okay to show as long as you pay Google a few thousand dollars to run it…

I got several ads from a well known scammer, full of conspiracy bullshit about how school is a way for the "elites" to hide some grand truth from the masses. It promotes his "re education" portal, which is actually a get-rich-fast type of scam, à la Andrew Tate. I reported the ad, twice, but YT claims it doesn’t violate any policies. I’m pretty sure it violates EU laws about disinformation, but no one is going to lis…

> from a well known scammer, full of conspiracy bullshit about how school is a way for the "elites" to hide some grand truth from the masses

not a nice thing to say about Peter Thiel! /s

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#124
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I think many content creators have recognized that it's important to expand their brand outside of youtube so they're not so beholden to youtube. I wonder if this is opening cracks for competitors.

The biggest video site in the world, with the 3rd biggest cloud is admitting they can't make money with adblocking on. Most of the world is not even using adblockers, as they're on mobile apps where it's harder. Why would anyone want to enter this market?

>The biggest video site in the world, with the 3rd biggest cloud is admitting they can't make money with adblocking on.

When did they admit this? They've definitely been very profitable. https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121207/youtube-google-al...

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#125

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They don't have to destroy their own metrics as a whole to drive away your niche audience as an individual creator. I can certainly imagine scenarios that would increase Google's metrics, user base, and ad revenue while causing problems for some existing creators. The push towards non-youtube channels like Nebula and Patreon signals that some creators are at least worried about their entire audience being delivered v…

This is massive cope. These are second or third order effects that will likely impact a very small segment of the population, if they will impact any at all. This is not like when Youtube killed short form content a decade ago. Show me a Youtuber that has been affected by this. Ping me in a year too. And no, going to these other sites is not a signal. Creators use these sites as additional revenue sources by posting…

A cope for what?

I was just responding to the idea that

"I think many content creators have recognized that it's important to expand their brand outside of youtube so they're not so beholden to YouTube."

Do you disagree with that statement?

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#126
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That's great! Thank you for keep supporting Youtube!

Support wikipedia. Youtube doesn't need support they have deep pockets making money selling ad space to scammers

Wikipedia doesn't need your money - their endowment has enough money ($200m+) to run the encyclopedia bit for decades Support the EFF.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#127

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

Do you ever skip past the shout-outs to the sponsor, or do you sit and pay attention to them out of admiration for the creators who spent so much time making free content for you?

I'll admit, I don't mind the ad reads for Michael Fisher's channel (MrMobile, gadget channel). This is because Fisher had done TV commercials as a young man and understands the importance of voice training and making ads feel friendly and natural.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#129
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The biggest video site in the world, with the 3rd biggest cloud is admitting they can't make money with adblocking on. Most of the world is not even using adblockers, as they're on mobile apps where it's harder. Why would anyone want to enter this market?

I think a more reasonable conclusion is that they can no longer continue growing their revenue with ad-block enabled, not that they aren't profitable. Remember, companies are about maximizing profit, not merely making a reasonable profit.

If they want to maximize profit, they should be playing hardball on their Google Cloud contracts instead of shoving more ads into every video. They're obviously GCP's biggest user, and that would give them enormous leverage to cut a better deal.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#130
post #83

A whole article about adblocking and no mention of gorhill's uBO? DNS level filtering? Come on Wired...

I don't think DNS filtering has worked on Youtube in a very long time. They serve ads from the same domains as the videos.

Fair point.
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