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Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

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Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

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Interesting that they used the Blackmagic Camera app instead of their own, maybe it's finally time for an upgrade to the default one.

Perhaps even more interesting, the behind the scenes video also suggests that most of the editing was done in DaVinci Resolve, not Final Cut Pro.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

#124

Since editing tools weren't mentioned, I suspect they must have used DaVinci Resolve or similar, instead of Final Cut Pro and Motion.

Seems like a reasonable suspicion. The behind the scenes video shows use of DaVinci Resolve throughout.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

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Interesting that they used the Blackmagic Camera app instead of their own, maybe it's finally time for an upgrade to the default one.

I was honestly curious about that myself, I have generally just used the stock one but I am now curious if that one works better or has some better features.

One of the big advantages to the Blackmagic Camera app is that you can shoot Apple Log into an H.265 container rather than ProRes, saving huge amounts of storage space.

It also has far better features for exposure, focus peaking, etc. It's the same UI which is in Blackmagic's actual cameras.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

#126
While watching the presentation, I found the faces a bit too sharp, but I was watching on a different, newer screen, which I imagined had a higher pixel density than the one I'm used to everyday.

But I just checked and the difference is neglectable (224 vs 218 ppi), so my guess is the over-sharpening of the iPhone.

Not that it was bad, just different enough to be noticeable.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be curious what the new $1000 camera is that has a 13-120mm lens, 48MP and is capable of shooting ProRes Log.

A Blackmagic Pocket Cinema starter bundle comes close, would be under 1500 but over 1000 USD. Gives you BRAW or ProRes, both log. Infinite more control over the captures, huge ecosystem of (professional) tooling and equipment that is compatible with it.

It doesn't come with a lens though. iPhone is f/1.8 -> f/2.8.

Equivalent is maybe Sigma 24-70 which is constant f/2.8 at an extra 1200 USD.

So all up ~3x more expensive than iPhone.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For tiny-budget indie films There's easily $100K of equipment on that page. You can rent an EOS C700 and 6 CN-E lenses for $2000/week. RED for not much more. If you're making a tiny budget indie, you already have similar caliber equipment. You're not renting high end ARRI and Panavision optics. I love that you can make good video with such small equipment. I just think if you're doing something like this, optimizin…

I don't think saying that you can get the same results with a $2,000+/week rental is making the argument that you think it is...

Yeah, I'm not talking a $5 million indie film, I'm talking about your $50K indie film. $2K/wk for camera rental is just totally out of the question.

Re: Apple’s keynote event shot on iPhone and edited on Mac

#129

A lot of people here are bringing up all of the expensive gear surrounding the iPhone that helped give it the professional look. This isn't unique to iPhone as a sensor. I work in TV and have spent a great deal of time on set shooting. The only time I've ever relied entirely on the camera's sensor and lens for a high quality image is shooting outside, and even then that requires adjustments, such as facing away from…

Without the expensive gear, the iPhone looks considerably downgraded compared to better source equipment. I had a Canon 5DII the day it was released and within a week some friends and I had a music video entered into a festival, and within a year, two short films, all done without any extra lighting or equipment - including gimbals. The source camera and lenses were good enough - and the look was amazing compared to camcorders - to achieve this.

Forgetting "shoots" and professional lighting, the iPhone isn't going to have the massive range of other equipment, and when you're spending literally thousands of pounds on studio time, lighting hire, operator costs, etc etc, are you really going to pick up and shoot on an iPhone when you've got a Black Magic or Sony or Canon at hand? Unless you're being paid by Apple?

I get that it's viable but there really is a lot of road between viable and superlative.

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