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Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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I think Kagi search quality has a coding bias. Searches related to physics,hardware,math are basically identical to google or noticeably worse. My coding related searches are usually much better with much less SEO spam than google. This might be a function of just how much larger the market for coding related content is online.

I guess this is their growth strategy, because programmers are the people most likely to pay for search engines in the current era.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Just chiming in here. My experience is: * Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant. * DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept…

Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? That it doesn't exploit you in every way possible is commendable, but stating that it "solves the privacy issues" is a long stretch.

It's not really about privacy. It's just a better experience on Kagi.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? That it doesn't exploit you in every way possible is commendable, but stating that it "solves the privacy issues" is a long stretch.

> Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2]. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html

Do they provide "personalized results" like google claims? That would seem to imply they -must- attach searches to your account, wouldn't it?

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #56

Just chiming in here. My experience is: * Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant. * DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept…

I love Kagi, too. I’ve mostly switched over. The one main thing I still find myself using Google for though is sports scores. That’s one thing I wish Kagi had. I love just searching “bears” or “colts” on Google on a NFL game day and immediately getting the live score at the top of the results. Kagi doesn’t have that feature yet, and I hope they add it.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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> Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2]. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html

Hmm, and apparently you can also ask it to block shit like pinterest from your search results?

there are browser plugins that do this as well :) . uBlackList for one

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #56

Just chiming in here. My experience is: * Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant. * DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept…

If Kagi keeps charging, it will never be popular. They could lower their price to $0.99 a year with the same result. And that's a good thing.

It's unlikely they can make a profit doing that. Servers, devs, etc cost money. This way they keep the audience smaller and can make money as well. It's a business, so you do what you gotta do.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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> Looking forward to the inevitable "Kagi sells user data" investigative report. Who would they sell the data to? Google? Ohhhh noooooo... More seriously, as long as it's paired with a "But their search results are still better than Google's trashfire", I'm not sure it would matter. Their tagline is "Fast, accurate, and ad-free", not "Fast, accurate, ad-free, and private."

Maybe try reading more than one sentence. "We care about data protection: We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We do not log or associate searches with an account. More at our privacy policy." literally on the main page. Smh.

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Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Narrator: They won't. I upgraded my subscription a few weeks ago because I blew past the first tier's limits. Kagi kinda fills the Neeva-sized hole in my heart.

Kagi doesn't need to win, and they know that. Kagi just has to focus on serving a tiny percentage of Google power users in order to be profitable and induce Google search to compete.

And if they stay private they can make a tidy profit without the pressure of "growth tech stock" shadowing their existence. I suspect they have an exit plan to get bought off by google if they grow enough though. Imagine "Google Search Platinum Edition"

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Oh, I didn't know it was time for HN's biweekly Kagi post. Those are invaluable, I use them as a personal reminder for me to water my cactus.

As far as promoting stuff and watering stuff infrequently goes, I use an app on my phone called "Planta" to remind me to water my cactus (and other plants). It's one of the few apps whose notifications I don't disable.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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This reminded me about my own free Kagi account. Searched for `emperor bed` and the article on my personal site about building my own emperor bed appeared as the 4th entry vs somewhere around the tenth on Google. I'll give it a shot as my default search shortcut for awhile.
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