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Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

I edited my comment. Who was censored is not relevant, instead, the fact that Elon wanted no censorship is. He didn't buy twitter for profit. He doesn't mind that it's losing money.

>> the fact that Elon wanted no censorship is.

You fell for his narrative, which is false.

https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-05-24/under-el...

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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> and the censorship he disliked may return. Banning Nazis is not censorship, it's basic hygiene.

It is censorship. Whether you'd consider it acceptable or not is a different matter, but don't try to duck the important decision you'd have to make about it. Many groups throughout history have thought that silencing people they didn't like was a matter of hygiene—including the Nazis, as a matter of fact. It's an enticing concept, using different standards when it comes to people you hate.

Advocating throwing human beings into ovens isn't acceptable. If you find yourself on the other end of that opinion, do some deep, deep soul searching. It's not about speech at that point.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Did you just speedrun Godwin's law?

Godwin's on record saying it's fine to make the comparison sometimes. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a56987/godwin-law... > Godwin wrote on Facebook that someone had asked him to post a statement about Charlottesville, because people bring up his law to shut down arguments all the time. Turns outhe was happy to oblige. "By all means, compare these shitheads to the Nazis," he wrote. "Again and again. I'm w…

When referring to actual Nazis, using the word "Nazi" is acceptable.

Incredible that needs to be said, but here we are.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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> His program uses public data sources including the Federal Aviation Administration, OpenSky Network, and Automatic Dependent Surveillance–Broadcast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney#Creation_of_fligh...

so if I go dig up your house in public real estate records and put it on blast to thousands of people, you won’t mind?

My county has all real estate record available though the web.

When then Ashley Madison scandal hit, people used that to find out if anyone of their neighbors was having an affair.

Still we didn’t close off public access since it’s useful for more than shaming others.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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The censorship never went away. It just switched from being at one owner's whim to being at a different owner's whim. Closed platforms are not and can never be "free speech zones." They answer to their owners, period.

What sort of topics are currently being censored? I haven't seen examples of things being suppressed, but that's also why I'm asking; because I wouldn't have seen things that got suppressed.

Do you live in a box?

Twitter used to fight _actual_ censorship. From governments demanding things be taken down. Musk rolls over like a puppy for China, India, Turkiye, etc...

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Of all the changes made to X, the one that places responses by paying members first is what ruins it for me. Those responses are usually pulpy.

I’m stunned no-one was able to talk him out of that one. “Pay-for-attention” is an _awful_ mechanic; even dating/hookup apps, who to some extent depend on it, generally have to ration it; you can’t just pay to be at the top of the grid/stack of cards all the time.

Elon is literally the ultimate target user for "Pay-for-attention" schemes. He literally spent $44 Billion Dollars to drive attention to himself.

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You mean like https://mcmansionhell.com/ ?

no, I mean tying your identity with your location and giving it potential to go viral. this is what "Elon Jet" was doing. it was taking technically public info and making it extremely easy to consume and re-share. as entertainment. for someone who is very much in the public eye. you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is.

> you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is.

I’m not so convinced. What harm does this account cause?

The most harmful thing that comes to mind is that someone could use the information to plan a murder. The account doesn’t provide this information; it is actually relevant that the information is otherwise available. A person so dedicated to hating this person that they decide to show up with violent intent at a public airport where his jet just landed or is about to take off is pretty damn likely to also be dedicated enough to find this information from other public sources. The account only makes it easier -- it doesn’t enable given that they’re already able -- for someone else to be actually harmful.

This talk of some billionaire gets to fly around in his private jet and the worst thing about it is that everyone else in the world gets to know when and where the jet arrives and departs... it’s just not something I have any sympathy for.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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You mean like https://mcmansionhell.com/ ?

no, I mean tying your identity with your location and giving it potential to go viral. this is what "Elon Jet" was doing. it was taking technically public info and making it extremely easy to consume and re-share. as entertainment. for someone who is very much in the public eye. you probably aren't famous so maybe you don't understand, but that sounds potentially harmful for someone who is.

You edited your comment dramatically from what I responded to.

Re: X rolls out new ad format that can't be reported, blocked

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Pretty sure the company is going to be sold to a private equity firm once it reaches $1b in valuation. There's just no way Musk is going to want to stick around the way things are trending. Premium tiers are not going to come close to replacing the lost revenue to declining ad spend. Especially when it's in a death spiral with increasingly spammier ads causing a flight of higher quality advertisers. And there isn't t…

Despite continuously making very unpopular moves, I can't see how Twitter loses its users. In fact, I think it will exist long after usage on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok falters -- because, it is less replaceable and less age-demographic dependent. I also think that advertisers will return when budgets increase again. There aren't that many other good options. In the long term, I think it goes nowhere an…

All of the tech people I followed moved to Mastodon.
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