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Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

#122

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

I read this several times and I have no idea what benefit this would serve or anything about it.

Let's say I want to make sure to donate to ALL open source projects I use in my company. Those in my builds as well as those used on our computers that are not build dependencies (e.g. Firefox, vim, Linux, ...).

How do I do that today? I collect a list of that software and contact hundreds of individual people and organizations, figure out the donation processes, fill out forms, transfer money etc.

I want this to be automated. I want this automation to build upon existing standards.

Does that help?

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And PSD is notoriously complicated. I remember reading some rant by an open source developer and there were things along the lines of different endianness in the same file. It’s a 30+ year old format that went to multiple transitions. I don’t envy the poor soul that has to reverse engineer it.

> I remember reading some rant by an open source developer This one? https://github.com/gco/xee/blob/4fa3a6d609dd72b8493e52a68f31...

That’s the one yes, thanks.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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That's just sad. Open Source support really needs to be normalized in corporate environment. Now it's more of an exception than the rule.

I agree, but in this particular case i have to ask... how many companies are actually USING Krita? My impression is that the vast majority of places that need software like that use Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator, or Affinity Photo/Designer.

Probably not many if you don't count small individual art studios - the mobile gacha game industry(and anime animation to some extent) don't standardize art styles and pipeline art production as done in American movie and comic industries, but relies on intimate collaborations with external, individual artists for creative components.

So they mostly only import (Krita-exported) PSD into Ps, or even if Krita was used professionally on the floor by employed artists, choice of tools would be up to artist's discretion and might not become a corporate talking point in the way, say, what Maya or Lightwave debate would be.

Maybe OnlyFans/Patreon could throw a million or two for couple years...? But Krita is not the first choice across the board, and creators on those platform don't seem too concerned with CSP/Procreate subscriptions, so that might be a difficult path too?

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

#126
post #67

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

thanks.dev does this. I think I saw GitHub Sponsors also started (or will start?) doing something like this, but I'm not sure on the details off-hand. But yeah, I've argued for this a long time as well: who is going to look up 100 to 2,000 dependencies and see if they accept donations and set that up and cancel when you stop using it, add new ones when you start using them (and many will be transitive deps, so you ha…

Isn’t this kinda what Tidelift is trying to do?

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

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post #92

I'm migrating from Krita to Photoshop lately. Don't get me wrong, I love Krita. I used it for years and I wrote ~30+ bug reports. It's a positive thing -- I won't bother reporting bugs to Adobe cause I know they don't care, unlike Krita devs. However every time I need to collaborate with someone else, they use Photoshop. They use .psd like it's an interchangeable format[1]. Out of 10+ artists I've only seen one who d…

Seems that a near-perfect psd import/export would be the killer feature that enables it to compete with Photoshop. That would be huge.

Relevant: "PSD is not my favorite format" (2009)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25946103

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

#128

This type of software is an excellent fit for "eventually open" licenses: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12459492 This way, corporations and business users can pay to get the latest version and features just like commercial software, while the hobbyist community still gets a relative recent and feature-full release they can use for free, has source available and is guaranteed to become fully GPL code in 3-5 yea…

No it ain't, those are just an attempt to pass something closed source off as open source. At least, I haven't seen the authors give their blessing to a fork of the old version of their software, beyond the text of the license itself. Maybe it hasn't been long enough, but it soon should be.

Why would the blessing matter, if the source is available and really licensed under a real open license after the exclusivity period? Why would the original authors give their blessing to a free competitor that aims to drive paying users away?

Perhaps you approach this a bit too dogmatically. The objective for me as a user is to have good quality software, with source available, in a competitive market that does not lock me in - because it allows other free or commercial spin-offs with low entry barriers.

If we can't ever accept something that does not pass the Stallman purity test - even if it means open source programmers in some niches should starve - what we end up in those niches is binary blobs filled with spyware. And due to network effects (see the above .PSD discussion), we soon find ourselves forced to swallow the blob because it's the only real option.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

#129

I want someone to build this: SBOM (Software Bill of Materials) are slowly becoming ubiquitus around the world due to regulation. I want to be able to aggregate all SBOMs within my company, have a small tool that scans my machine and creates a SBOM for all Open Source tools I use (e.g. Firefox, VLC etc.), uploads that to my corporate registry. This data is then submitted to a donation aggregator which analyzes those…

Don't take this the wrong way but corporate are such prima donnas! I got flashbacks from my tiny startup days when corporate went to procurement companies which wanted specific terms and mode of payment. And after all the infrastructure was in place... they basically spent no money! The SBOM idea exists in various forms. Few need it and few use it. If somebody wants to pay money, they will figure out a way. If they w…

> Don't take this the wrong way but corporate are such prima donnas!

Not taking it the wrong way, you're right :)

> I got flashbacks from my tiny startup days when corporate went to procurement companies which wanted specific terms and mode of payment. And after all the infrastructure was in place... they basically spent no money!

Yep, that's painful but I count it as the cost of doing business. If I jump through these hoops and my competition doesn't it sets me apart. If only 1 in 10 then spent money so be it.

> The SBOM idea exists in various forms. Few need it and few use it.

True today. Not true tomorrow. Software development will become a highly regulated industry. This is my prediction at least.

> If somebody wants to pay money, they will figure out a way. If they want to invent an excuse they will find one.

I want to give them fewer excuses.

Re: Krita fund has no corporate support

#130
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And PSD is notoriously complicated. I remember reading some rant by an open source developer and there were things along the lines of different endianness in the same file. It’s a 30+ year old format that went to multiple transitions. I don’t envy the poor soul that has to reverse engineer it.

> I remember reading some rant by an open source developer This one? https://github.com/gco/xee/blob/4fa3a6d609dd72b8493e52a68f31...

I took a look at the git blame, and the commit title is perfect.

https://github.com/gco/xee/commit/750196023da5457d9535b30299...

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