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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google pays Apple $20b every year to remain the default search engine on iOS. Now that's desperate. Where were people going to go, Bing?

Google may be afraid that Apple would develop their own search engine, just like they developed their own maps engine and iCloud for email/photos. Apple, with their massive piles of cash, would have the resources to do that.

Or buy one, like Bing, and take it from middling to solid.

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post #41

If you use the bing chat interface and say "Can you draw me a picture of X?", then it responds with "I’m sorry, but I’m not able to draw pictures. Is there anything else I can help you with?" followed immediately by "Your image is taking a while to generate. Check your image creation progress at Image Creator." Looks like they might perhaps be using a LLM for the chat responses that isn't aware that it has the abilit…

I think this has to do with the verb "draw". LLM is just saying it cannot draw. The image generation is likely a function it "calls". The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses, a separate entity from itself.

> The LLM probably thinks of the image generator as a tool it uses

I don’t think it’s correct to describe the LLM as “thinking” in this instance, and not even for the normal philosophical objections, but just because I suspect it is a bad heuristic for designing these kinds of prompts.

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> 2 hr wait > Creating new images can take time > Because you're out of boosts, image generation may take longer than usual. Just how much money is Microsoft burning up by offering all these features? I mean, last time I checked[0] - being this generous didn't really do anything for Bing, did it? Is this "just because we can" or is it genuinely profitable for them? [0]: https://searchengineland.com/new-bing-google-ma…

The really big dogs always work with long term, strategic plans. When something looks too generous, it most likely is just that. Is it profitable? Probably not. But that is the point. Offer a service under market value, wait until the competition goes away, then make bank. There are many, many examples, but something like Google Workspace comes to mind. Make it easy and cheap to get on board, get people and businesse…

> Offer a service under market value, wait until the competition goes away

It feels like this doesn’t work as well with a lot of software services as it does with physical brick and mortar businesses.

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post #88

Winner: https://www.bing.com/images/create/paint-a-picture-in-the-st...

I love that there’s a Jira ticket in someone’s backlog that says “teach the model how many hands humans have”.

It's a corollary of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule

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post #85
post #16

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Same. Can't imagine why they've been using it for so long instead of building a reasonable UX for this use case. I think this will cost them a bunch of traction.

I believe the fact that it's in Discord is actually the main reason it became so popular so fast. The number one thing that makes something popular is other people already doing it. When you go into a Discord and you are watching hundreds of people use a product in real time, you almost have to try it. When Midjourney first blew up, it was probably one of the most profound moments in marketing of the internet era. As…

The chat, admin and moderation features in discord have huge value and are costly to build. The anti-bot protection and built in permission system especially.

They focus their resource on their product, while exposing it to mostly geek.

I would have never though it would be a good idea, but it proved to be a good choice.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The really big dogs always work with long term, strategic plans. When something looks too generous, it most likely is just that. Is it profitable? Probably not. But that is the point. Offer a service under market value, wait until the competition goes away, then make bank. There are many, many examples, but something like Google Workspace comes to mind. Make it easy and cheap to get on board, get people and businesse…

The more charitable interpretation is that companies sometimes explore new markets with a “see where people find value, figure out how to monetize later” philosophy.

At these meetings both interpretations motivate agreement but neither is mentioned.

Re: DALL-E 3 is now publicly available inside Bing

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google pays Apple $20b every year to remain the default search engine on iOS. Now that's desperate. Where were people going to go, Bing?

Google may be afraid that Apple would develop their own search engine, just like they developed their own maps engine and iCloud for email/photos. Apple, with their massive piles of cash, would have the resources to do that.

Or that Apple simply changes the default Bing, offering something less but greater than 0, and Google loses out on >20 billion in ad revenue.
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