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Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by sznio »

jamesfinlayson wrote: post #89
GuB-42 wrote: post #62

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RAGE, a game from 2011 takes 25 GB, with compression and blurry graphics. DOOM (2016) is 55GB and Doom Eternal is 80GB. The reason: huge textures, where every detail is unique and that look good up close. Let's say you map the world at a millimeter scale, let's a byte per mm2, 1GB is 1000m2, which is about the size of a typical backyard, small maps are bigger than that, have a bunch of them and you can get to tens of…

I thought the Counter-Strike: Global Offensive was already in the vicinity of 80GB and Counter-Strike 2 has launched with fewer maps hasn't it?

CSGO was closer to 24GB.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by markjgx »

miohtama wrote: post #2

Reading the reviews > to many cheaters to enjoy Some obvious problems have not been solved in two decades.

Some players will also be convinced that you're cheating if you play the game really really well, and they will get upset. CS:GO (now CS2) has a very fascinating way of determining if someone is cheating. A ML based heuristic that is constantly being retrained, that can accurately judge whether someone is actually cheating or not based off their Overwatch (not the game) replay system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTiP0zKF9bc

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by capableweb »

Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL wrote: post #41

Sorry to comment just on one singular aspect but... 85 GB of free storage listed as minimum system requirement? Granted, I haven't seriously played any major games for at least 10 years I'd say. My occasional playing is limited in time and scope and usually involves reliving some old titles... is this really a new normal? We're also not talking about a big MMORPG with an incredibly wide world... Counter Strike is sti…

The storage requirement is inflated. On disk, CS2 takes 33,6 GB (36 090 429 440 bytes), which is less than 50% of the mentioned 85GB.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by Zambyte »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #19
Zambyte wrote: post #11

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Or they could ignore the people crying about cheaters because they lost. I was previously SMFC. People love to call cheats way more often than people actually cheat im that game. People cannot fathom simply being worse, or they cannot emotionally handle it. No, they should not add kernel level malware to the game.

I mean, cheating is likely to be an actual problem. Not that it justifies the malware, but there is a real problem even if that's not a reasonable solution.

It's not a question of if it's a problem. People do cheat, and that is a problem. It's a question of how much of a problem it is. What percentage of games have cheaters in them? I would bet there are several orders of magnitude difference between that number, and the percentage of games where someone cries cheater.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by remram »

I love a numbered series but if you are going to use numbers, use them in sequence. This is Counter-Strike 5.

    Counter-Strike (2000)
    Counter-Strike: Condition Zero (2004)
    Counter-Strike: Source (2005) (that one is a port to Source really)
    Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012)
    Counter-Strike 2 (2023)
I suppose this is not as bad as Battlefield 1, the tenth game in the Battlefield series... released after Battlefield 2, Battlefield 3, and Battlefield 4.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by npteljes »

remram wrote: post #125

I love a numbered series but if you are going to use numbers, use them in sequence. This is Counter-Strike 5. Counter-Strike (2000) Counter-Strike: Condition Zero (2004) Counter-Strike: Source (2005) (that one is a port to Source really) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012) Counter-Strike 2 (2023) I suppose this is not as bad as Battlefield 1, the tenth game in the Battlefield series... released after Battlefield…

There's also Neo, Online, CS-CZ Deleted Scenes, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some, because I have bought the pack back the day, and it had like 6 titles.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by bravetraveler »

baby wrote: post #91
bravetraveler wrote: post #58

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Honestly aim only goes so far. A lot of it's knowing crosshair placement (ie: aiming where someone would be around the corner) and comfort with moving. It helps to know rough timings for where conflicts first happen. You can filter out a lot of this posturing by having a sense of where the other team should be, given timing For example, in B-tunnels on dust2 in CS:GO and 2. With a decent spawn point, the opposing tea…

Another pro move is to aim on the wall where you crosshair will meet the target after you straff. So you aim at the wall, move left and now you’re aiming at the correct position without having had to move your crosshair, then move your crosshair again to the wall, rinse and repeat.

Indeed, a key part of this crosshair placement is 'prefiring' - knowing you're about to shoot before peeking.

The time-to-kill is rather low, the victor is [usually] who prepared the most - not who has the best natural aim.

I decide where I go each round by my spawn point - that's one of the easiest advantages you can have; knowing which allows you to beat the other team to a position/setup.

Once that initial fun is over, it's mostly about keeping a mental model of where the other team 'should be', and preparing for that.

Public games are a wild animal, you lose a lot of this 'reasoning' when it's no longer 5v5 or some reasonable number.

You generally assume a 2-1-2 split on the left/mid/right 'lanes' of the map; but some teams may stack when economically challenged. Many pistols beat one/two rifles, and can turn the round around!

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by Difwif »

Noumenon72 wrote: post #99
spartanatreyu wrote: post #65

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^ It's absolutely this. I always thought I played normal, but I needed this to be pointed out to me. If no one has ever seen an e-sports player's physical movements, They have very light mice (under 75g), a mouse pad about 1m (3ft) long and move their whole arm left and right to turn their character 180 degrees while using just their wrist and flexing their fingers to fine tune the cursor onto the head for a headshot…

Does the game provide a button when you actually need to turn around, or do you have to pick up the mouse three times since the mouse pad is not 2 feet wide?

Serious players buy 2 feet wide mouse pads I'm not joking (no there is not a turn around button). Yes you will see people pick up there mice sometimes. Most people setup up their sensitivity so that they can do a single 360 going from left to right edge of mouse pad and then buy large pads. Keep in mind in game you're using WASD movement in a correspondingly twitchy way and are actively avoiding putting yourself in a situation where you need to 180 quickly. It's part of the meta.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by bravetraveler »

sznio wrote: post #120
willis936 wrote: post #82

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Not even remotely close. OW2 introduced a battle pass riddled with dark patterns, removed all passive cosmetics collection while focusing on pushing cosmetics, changed gameplay balanced haphazardly for the worse to justify the "2" in the name, and the playerbase saw these hostile actions for what they are. CS2 does exactly none of these things and instead keeps the gameplay and social contract largely unchanged. Game…

>the playerbase reaction is overwhelmingly positive. Looking at reddit, it doesn't look like it, but that's just reddit. I don't like it too. It's just a worse-looking, worse-performing game. The gamemodes and maps I liked are gone too.

Definitely take Reddit with some salt - that's what they're made of, after all :)

I enjoy it, they dealt with my major complaint with GO - the colors being dreadful/dreary. I appreciate how things generally feel brighter.

That said, I am having some weird visual things. Dynamic lights and the player contrast/highlight thing mess up smokes pretty good:

https://i.imgur.com/90wpKmO.jpeg

This is on Fedora with Flatpak Steam, latest stable kernel/Mesa.

Performance does need some work; when I manage to get it to actually ignore vsync (hence ~160 FPS), my frame times are all over the place - with a 7950X3D and 6900XT.

Re: Valve releases Counter-Strike 2

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Post by baby »

jakebasile wrote: post #101
baby wrote: post #88

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Just play fun games at your skill level, and/or play with friends. It’s all about having fun. Don’t try to get into competitive games right from the start. Or if you feel like you can, join a team at your level.

Oh no, I never meant to get into it competitively. I don't get much joy out of that. But it'd be nice to have a PvP shooter I could screw around in every so often. CoD kind of used to be that for me, but it's both gone in a direction I don't enjoy and doesn't work well on Linux due to anti-cheat.

Aren't gungames fun at a beginner level? Or custom games also.
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