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First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by 303uru »

kaibee wrote: post #112
have_faith wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally can't wait for brands to start specifically advertising "doesn't use AI" as a selling point because everyone got burned by their AI controlled toaster, literally and figuratively. For anything designated an "appliance" I want it to be fixable by someone locally, or it's just throwing money away.

> For anything designated an "appliance" I want it to be fixable by someone locally This is already pretty much gone thanks to manufacturers making it extremely difficult to fix things. No AI required.

It's not gone, but is much more expensive up front. For example, everyone I know has a range or stovetop/oven with a circuit board or two in it, few if any replaceable parts, etc... That's basically the standard if you're in the 30" range that costs $1-2k market. Meanwhile, my 60" Bluestar has no circuit board, it has four mechanical electronic switches for the oven lights and convection. Everything else is brass valves, standard easily replaceable parts and so on. A few weeks back a convection fan went out and I replaced it in 5 minutes with a screwdriver. But, this range starts at $18k.

So yes, I see a market for bespoke non-AI.

Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by [deleted] »

jihadjihad wrote: post #114
justlikeyou wrote: post #91

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Note: I had to ask it why people in the photo are laughing. In the image, Barack Obama, the former U.S. President, seems to be playfully posing as if he's trying to add weight while another official, who appears to be former UK Prime Minister David Cameron, is standing on a scale. Obama's gesture, where he's putting his foot forward as though trying to press down on the scale, suggests a playful attempt to make Camer…

Pretty damn good. According to Wikimedia [0]: "President Barack Obama jokingly puts his toe on the scale as Trip Director Marvin Nicholson, unaware to the President's action, weighs himself as the presidential entourage passed through the volleyball locker room at the University of Texas in Austin, Texas, Aug. 9, 2010. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)" 0: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:White_House_…

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Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by qingcharles »

jihadjihad wrote: post #21

> With that said, GPT-4V did make a mistake. The model said the fried chicken was labeled “NVIDIA BURGER” instead of “GPU”. Any midwesterner could tell you that CLEARLY it's a tenderloin :) https://www.seriouseats.com/best-breaded-pork-tenderloin-san...

LOL. They have to save the Midwesterner add-on for v2.

Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by qingcharles »

zerojames wrote: post #97
Usu wrote: post #9

I'd be interested in knowing how good it is at solving visual captchas, do we foresee a huge rise in automated bypasses?

We have just added a section on this! TL;DR: GPT-4V isn't great at this task at the moment :)

Is it possible they hobbled it a bit? I know CAPTCHA solving was one of the reasons they delayed the roll-out of this feature.

Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by generic92034 »

kossTKR wrote: post #62
troupo wrote: post #60

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Has AI been able to figure out conflicting and quickly changing product requirements and implement them on top of existing technical debt? You'll be fine.

But if this development continues AI will surely be able to just parse the entire frontend, then look at the repo, then look at the specifications, then when you ask for a specific feature it will instantly implement it gracefully. I don't see why it wouldn't understand piles of hotfixes on top of each other, or even refactor technical debt in tight coupling with existing or historical specification. Or is there a re…

It depends. Did you ever work in Development Support? Understanding requests or bug reports from customers is quite challenging, for trained and experienced developers. In my eyes that would require AGI, which we do not know of, if that can be achieved with the current approach.

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Post by vsareto »

elforce002 wrote: post #118
have_faith wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally can't wait for brands to start specifically advertising "doesn't use AI" as a selling point because everyone got burned by their AI controlled toaster, literally and figuratively. For anything designated an "appliance" I want it to be fixable by someone locally, or it's just throwing money away.

"AI" will create a new business model for sure: "Talk to a real person", "100% human made", etc. This would be the new counter-culture.

That's a new flavor of customer service jobs which will still suck and be paid terribly

Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by ctoth »

have_faith wrote: post #111
cs702 wrote: post #10

Sure, there are a few edge-case failures and mistakes here and there, but I can't help but be in awe . AWE. Let me state the obvious, in case anyone here isn't clear about the implications: If the rate of improvement of these AI models continues at the current pace, they will become a superior user interface to almost every thing you want to do on your mobile phone, your tablet, your desktop computer, your car, your…

I personally can't wait for brands to start specifically advertising "doesn't use AI" as a selling point because everyone got burned by their AI controlled toaster, literally and figuratively. For anything designated an "appliance" I want it to be fixable by someone locally, or it's just throwing money away.

> For anything designated an "appliance" I want it to be fixable by someone locally, or it's just throwing money away.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China, or AI for that matter? I agree we should have repairable appliances. I also want better AI.

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Post by bamboozled »

cs702 wrote: post #10

Sure, there are a few edge-case failures and mistakes here and there, but I can't help but be in awe . AWE. Let me state the obvious, in case anyone here isn't clear about the implications: If the rate of improvement of these AI models continues at the current pace, they will become a superior user interface to almost every thing you want to do on your mobile phone, your tablet, your desktop computer, your car, your…

Ever wanted to see a photo or video or something before you purchased it ?

Glance at a long term weather forecast ?

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Post by sureglymop »

morkalork wrote: post #73
layer8 wrote: post #28

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I don’t know, I hate the idea of having to hold a natural-language conversation with a computer in order to make use of its functionality. It feels like being one of those Futurama heads in a jar that can’t do anything by themselves.

UIs being dumbed down for average users was already annoying. Apparently the process won't stop until the illiterate are included too.

But what is bad about that? Why shouldn't they be included?

Re: First Impressions with GPT-4V(ision)

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Post by bamboozled »

jonplackett wrote: post #35
verve_rat wrote: post #22

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They will be the best input mode to play flight sims? I am being a little facetious, but you made a bold claim.

I mean, autopilot is a thing. You would just instruct it what to do and it will make a flight plan and do it. It’s gonna take the fun out of the experience a little bit though!

Welcome to the future ?
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