Anyone see pricing?
DJI Mini 4 Pro
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Called an efoil, they also have non electric versions that are much cheaper
do they have ICE versions of these or do you mean towed only or the wind powered ones?
I do not think that there are ICE versions. But there are many different versions by now, including pump foil (just up-and-down body motion), SUP foil (with paddel), surf foil (wave), wake foil (towed behind boat, but able to let go and just surfing on the boats wave), wing foil (inflatable sail that you hold in your hand, the most popular version) and versions for kite and wind surfers. All are currently significantly cheaper than eFoil (starting around 1k compared to 5k for eFoil) but mostly more challenging, in good sense and bad sense. Some people have said that you learn how to eFoil in 30min. Then the battery is empty. But that is okay as by that time it becomes boring. Which is different to all the other foil sports (exept maybe wake) were most need ~10h to even achive small steps forward. But once you manage, basically every body of water becomes a surf spot.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
The mini is pretty damn quiet. At 50ft of altitude people don't hear it. AT 100ft of altitude people don't even see it. I've flown one hundreds of times and other than other drone owners no one has ever said a thing or noticed. The drone owners notice and come over to talk drones.
Lots of people avoid confrontation
Definitely this. This summer a guy was flying a drone over a popular park area where lots of people were swimming in the river; it was extremely annoying. I'm pretty sure the drone was above the legal weight limit too, and as I have a UAV license, I'm well aware that it's illegal to operate a drone directly above other people. I spotted the guy with the drone controls but decided not to talk to him about it, because I couldn't be certain that someone as inconsiderate as that wouldn't necessarily react violently.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want the drone to autonomously track you, then the mini 4 pro is the only realistic choice since it has obstacle detection at all directions. The mini 3 pro does not have obstacle detection at the sides. In a mountain bike scenario, the drone is mostly capturing you on the side and it is moving sideways itself. So, unless you want to fly it next to the sea, you want to have sideways obstacle detection. Or, jus…
My mountain biking is done at a mountain biking park with no trees on the tracks I ride. As long as it maintains at least 10 feet of altitude over me, there's no risk for it hitting something. That said, I'm starting to lean towards spending the extra money to pick up the Mini 4 Pro, especially if Costco runs a good bundle deal. Like right now, they sell a Mini 3 Pro bundle for $839 that includes the drone and RC-N1…
Wouldn't it be better to get a (helium) ballon and attach i.e a go-pro that with a rope tied to you. I mean, you need a bit of volume that will have a bit of drag, but it will always follow you, be quiet and mostly cheaper.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a friend that builds his own drones (and RC vehicles, like a really big, fast tank). He sneers at DJI, but keeps one to entertain the mensch (that's me). He also sneers at licensing, jailbreaking, geofencing, etc. I notice that there aren't any pictures that actually show people in close proximity to the drone. The "drone in hand" picture looks photoshopped, so I assume the drone is actually not-so-mini. I hav…
would love to get an alternative but it doesn't seem like anyone else is getting anywhere near the flight times that dji has. all the non dji drones I've seen list 8 min while dji is saying 15-20 min.
There are lots of them like the Explorer LR that are under the 250g limit, and get 30-40 minute runtime.
That said in the hobbyist community power is more interesting than range. I have a DJI mini 2 and the technology is impressive but honestly, it puts me to sleep compared to my 100MPH mini quad. Every time I use it (once every few months) I have to update the app, use a trash remote, and install all this spyware on my phone.
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#126Where is the US or EU competitor to DJI? They are running away with it. Oh right, we instead pioneered regulation and legislation , all those deaths from drones falling down and drones hitting planes.
I think it's less to do with regulation, and more to do with China acquiring most of the production capacity for the necessary components. Makes it easier to move quickly and iterate when the vendors are right there and speak your language.
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#127Where is the US or EU competitor to DJI? They are running away with it. Oh right, we instead pioneered regulation and legislation , all those deaths from drones falling down and drones hitting planes.
The moment DJI really took off from the competition is when they began using high-end cameras and optics.
DJI is a video camera company that happens to put the cameras on drones.
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#128Was just telling my friend I was a bit surprised at how rapidly consumer drones advanced in the late 2010's and have slowed down ever since. Seems like a lot of these features haven't really improved all that much in the past 5 years.
Most aspects have seen good improvements, in particular range, flight time and the camera. The Mini 4 Pro also has the 360° sensors that previously only were on the larger drones.
The Mini (2019) was a big step up compared to the Spark (2017) with merely a 2-axis gimbal and the Mini 2 (2020) brought very welcome range and camera improvements. I don't have first hand experience with anything more recent but it looks like both the range and the camera keep improving in those. The flight time, top speed and wind resistance are also increasing.
So i'm not sure what in particular you feel hasn't improved significantly.
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#129Streaming 1080p/60fps up to 20km wirelessly is mind boggling to me. What kind of tech is used to make that happen? seems like it'd require a lot of power.
DJI OcuSync is based on LTE: https://www.suasnews.com/2022/05/the-dji-p1-and-s1-fpv-chips... is an example of more information.
This is a major advantage DJI and other Chinese drone makers have over US based ones. Technically acquiring an SDR/DSP implemented LTE baseband is not a major difficulty. Getting Qualcomm to let you is quite a challenge.
Looking at FCC listings and product pages you can tell that DJI are also throwing power at the problem. The EIRP on DJI devices is very high. They go up to 33dBm (2W EIRP) on the most modern devices like the Mini 4 Pro.
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#130battery life good
everything else idk
might make drone LED shows easier though, those are probably a bigger use case than the one off drone enthusiast