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Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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Post by danaris » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 11:58 AM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #120

danaris wrote: post #17

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I'm honestly struggling to come up with a use case for a single iPhone to need more than 300 megabytes per second (2.4Gbps) of bandwidth at any given time. (Noting that 8K video, in fairly un-optimized scenarios, appears to need about 96Mbps—just 12 megabytes per second, or 4% of that "low" bandwidth.) What are you doing, streaming raw, uncompressed video from multiple sources to a single iPhone? If you've got that m…

Downloading big games (apple showcased Resident Evil village I believe)

According to a quick DuckDuckGo search, RE Village's download size varies between about 26GB and 29GB depending on what platform it's for—let's just round to 30GB for convenience.

At that size, and the speed I mentioned above, it would take less than 2 minutes (100 seconds, to be precise) to download the entirety of the game. I don't know about you, but I think expecting that a game like that download in less time than that—an operation you only have to do once, when you first install it—seems pretty excessive.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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Post by cesarb » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 3:37 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #119

cesarb wrote: post #108

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> It was technically possible to wire up entire countries and continents for electricity and phone service, so I doubt there are any technical hurdles in doing the same with fibre. Wiring up some places for electricity is really hard . I live in a huge country (Brazil) with a sprawling integrated electricity network, but there are still over a hundred small localities (source: https://www.ons.org.br/AcervoDigitalDocu…

Nowadays shouldn't it be easy to install solar panels and megapacks, and operate independently from the grid?

Yes, but in the context of this thread ("[...] so I doubt there are any technical hurdles in doing the same with fibre"), that would be like installing a wired phone or network service which reaches only as far as the same city. That is, you can operate an independent network, but what you want is to network with the rest of the world; and even if doing it with optical fiber is as easy as connecting to the country's main electric network, there are places where connecting to that electric network is already hard.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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Post by throw0101c » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 4:43 PM UTC

ls612 wrote: post #112

throw0101c wrote: post #57

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> […] far from the closest village... And I had fiber to the home (2 Gbps down // 600 Mbps up). You were probably not surprised that the dwelling you were in had electricity. I think at some point having fibre should also be as unsurprising.

It took 40-50 years after the introduction of electricity in the late 1800s for electricity to reach that point of penetration.

> It took 40-50 years after the introduction of electricity in the late 1800s for electricity to reach that point of penetration.

For the first few decades it was not mainstream. The US passed (under FDR) a law in 1936:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_Electrification_Act

How long did it take after that point? I'm curious in how quickly conscious policy choices can be made into reality.

Re: EE is working with Qualcomm to add Wi-Fi 7 to consumer broadband hubs

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Post by throw0101c » Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 4:44 PM UTC

cesarb wrote: post #122

redox99 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowadays shouldn't it be easy to install solar panels and megapacks, and operate independently from the grid?

Yes, but in the context of this thread ("[...] so I doubt there are any technical hurdles in doing the same with fibre"), that would be like installing a wired phone or network service which reaches only as far as the same city. That is, you can operate an independent network, but what you want is to network with the rest of the world; and even if doing it with optical fiber is as easy as connecting to the country's…

> Yes, but in the context of this thread ("[...] so I doubt there are any technical hurdles in doing the same with fibre"), that would be like installing a wired phone or network service which reaches only as far as the same city.

The context of this thread is: if you could technically string power and POTS lines, why can't you string fibre?

Note what you, yourself quote: the same with fibre. It pre-supposes the other infrastructure was setup.