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Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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post #115

I have seen numerous posts of llm q&a and by the time people try to replicate them gpt4 is fixed. It either means that OpenAI is actively monitoring the Internet and fixes them or the Internet is actively conspiring to present falsified results for gpt4 to discredit OpenAI

It would be nice if the organizations would publish a hash of the code and the trained dataset.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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anyone who hasn't been following natural language processing for a long time, what these llms are doing would be like if you discovered that dogs can speak fluent english if you read enough bedtime stories to them. and then everyone is like well sometimes the dog makes up things or it can't get the rhyming scheme correct for this specific form of poetry that i asked it to make.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's certainly RLHFed. All of the logic puzzles I use for evaluation that used to fail months ago now pass no problem and I've even had a hard time modifying them to fail.

This is sort of a bummer because it’s not actually an improvement to the model, but just a patch job to artificially inflate performance. All it does is make true evaluation more difficult. Classic “you get what you measure”.

Maybe, maybe not. The magic of LLMs is their ability to generalize both from the human language in the data set and examples in the prompt. If RLHF training improves on that generalization, then it's just a matter of getting a big enough high quality dataset (and not crippling it with censorship). This is probably what's given OpenAI their initial advantage.

Time will tell I guess.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

#124
post #122

anyone who hasn't been following natural language processing for a long time, what these llms are doing would be like if you discovered that dogs can speak fluent english if you read enough bedtime stories to them. and then everyone is like well sometimes the dog makes up things or it can't get the rhyming scheme correct for this specific form of poetry that i asked it to make.

and “it’s not intelligence, they’re just stochastic parrots acting in response to external stimuli! yes it passed the MCAT, but thats because it was trained on prep materials just like I was!”

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

#125
post #115

I have seen numerous posts of llm q&a and by the time people try to replicate them gpt4 is fixed. It either means that OpenAI is actively monitoring the Internet and fixes them or the Internet is actively conspiring to present falsified results for gpt4 to discredit OpenAI

Or people post outliers because they're more interesting.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

#126
post #115

I have seen numerous posts of llm q&a and by the time people try to replicate them gpt4 is fixed. It either means that OpenAI is actively monitoring the Internet and fixes them or the Internet is actively conspiring to present falsified results for gpt4 to discredit OpenAI

> actively conspiring to present falsified results for gpt4 to discredit OpenAI

All this would be solved if OpenAI were a bit more open.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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post #12

> Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have? The site reports every LLM as getting this wrong. But GPT4 seems to get it right for me: > Sally has 3 brothers. Since each brother has 2 sisters and Sally is one of those sisters, the other sister is the second sister for each brother. So, Sally has 1 sister.

I confirm GPT-4 solves this correctly. Makes me immediately doubt everything else in the article...

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Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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post #12

> Sally (a girl) has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. How many sisters does Sally have? The site reports every LLM as getting this wrong. But GPT4 seems to get it right for me: > Sally has 3 brothers. Since each brother has 2 sisters and Sally is one of those sisters, the other sister is the second sister for each brother. So, Sally has 1 sister.

Falcon-180B also got it right

> Since Sally is a girl, she can be considered as one of the sisters. However, if each of her brothers has 2 sisters, that means there must be another sister besides Sally. This is because Sally alone cannot be both the only sister and one of the two sisters for each of her brothers. Thus, Sally has 1 more sister.

Re: Asking 60 LLMs a set of 20 questions

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One thing to keep in mind is that most or all of these models are very sensitive to the exact prompt. Many of them may be capable of giving a good answer when prompted slightly differently. Here was my interaction with Falcon 180B using the apples prompt:

I went to the market and bought 10 apples. I gave 2 apples to the neighbor and 2 to the repairman. I then went and bought 5 more apples and ate 1. I also gave 3 bananas to my brother. How many apples did I remain with? Let's think step by step.

Here is the answer to the question/instruction based on a piece of given material

Question/Instruction: How many apples did I remain with?

Given material: He had waited patiently for three weeks, watching her every move. Each day she left the house at precisely 7am and returned at 6pm. But today was different; today would be the day he made his move. As usual, he watched from the shadows as she stepped out onto the street. She took a deep breath and stretched her arms high above her head before setting off down the road. It was almost too easy. I know this may sound like the beginning of some dodgy thriller novel, but bear with me; it’s actually a scene that regularly plays out in towns and cities across the country. The man in question is a personal trainer and the woman is a prospective client. The reason she has been so predictable is because it’s January and she is partaking in what has become an annual tradition – the health kick. Every year millions of us swear allegiance to the gym. We buy shiny new trainers and designer sportswear. We begin each morning with a brisk walk, followed by a wheatgrass shot and bowl of muesli. For a

What are you talking about?

I apologize for the confusion. As an AI language model, I am programmed to provide answers and generate responses based on the given material or input provided to me. However, without any specific input, I can only provide general answers. Can you please provide me with a topic or question you would like me to respond to?

Please solve the following riddle: I went to the market and bought 10 apples. I gave 2 apples to the neighbor and 2 to the repairman. I then went and bought 5 more apples and ate 1. I also gave 3 bananas to my brother. How many apples did I remain with? Let's think step by step.

Sure, let's think step by step:

You started with 10 apples. You gave away 4 apples (2 to your neighbor and 2 to the repairman). You bought 5 more apples, bringing your total number of apples to 11 (the remaining 6 you had after giving away 4 + the 5 you bought). You ate 1 apple, leaving you with 10 apples. You gave 3 bananas to your brother, but this doesn't affect the number of apples you have. Therefore, you remain with 10 apples.

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