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Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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You got to wonder how much more it will take for people to start switching to another browser. Hopefully not too late

How does this change anything for an end user? There's a pop up that will be clicked through and soon forgotten and then there will still be ads. The ads might be slightly less targetted as they may now be showing for general browsing categories rather than individual websites visited but its not a big change.

said the frog, while getting cooked

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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I have been using Firefox since version 2.x and I never understood what downsides people find with it. I've used chrome and the only difference i saw was annoying pushes from google to log in so that i could be tracked all the time. Otherwise, it shows web pages, what more do you want?

Using Chrome at work and Firefox at home, the only features I missed were low-effort 'translate this page' and extensionless reverse image search. Wise Google have decided to remove the second point by replacing it with terrible Lens. The differences aren't really important any more. Both have converged on similar UIs, both have important privacy extensions, both have password managers and payment storage. My only ca…

I installed Brave the other day, and it has a page translation feature.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Related tweet from Paul Graham: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1699021936573940154 "If you go to chrome://settings/adPrivacy you can turn off the spyware that got inserted into the latest version of Chrome." And I found PaulG's tweet from this earlier Hacker News discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37392517

If you're interested in utilizing your history information for something in your intentional interests, consider saving an archive of pages you browse to make a search engine you can query back through later. You can save the full content for indexing with full text search, and you can even export archives as tarballs by zipping up the directory. Many people find this a useful way to "mine" their own browser history…

https://pinboard.in is my go-to for this sort of thing.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Just got this blocking modal. In mine, the title says “Turn on an ad privacy feature”. That is misleading to say the least. This is a privacy-invading feature, leaking summaries of my browsing history to anyone who wants to have a look. What’s worse, the modal completely blocks the UI, so you can’t even search for it to understand more. Why am I even using this browser anymore? EDIT: Note this section about privacy g…

> Why am I even using this browser anymore? Yeah, stop putting up with all these anti-features! Firefox, Brave etc are not perfect but at least they're not THAT. No matter how many hoops you jump through, still using Chrome means it is being endorsed. Wish more people would reconsider it like you and jump ship!

I've been back to Firefox for 3-4 years and it has been rock solid on MacOS and Android. I have only very minor gripes not worth mentioning.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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post #3

Related tweet from Paul Graham: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1699021936573940154 "If you go to chrome://settings/adPrivacy you can turn off the spyware that got inserted into the latest version of Chrome." And I found PaulG's tweet from this earlier Hacker News discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37392517

At some point you would have to set a weekly (daily?) reminder to turn off all new sell-out "features" that get added. Also, at some point those "features" stop being an option you can opt-out. The real solution is switching to Firefox.

When human beings act like this they get labelled as predators. This industry has a terrifying understanding of what consent means.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why am I even using this browser anymore? Yeah, stop putting up with all these anti-features! Firefox, Brave etc are not perfect but at least they're not THAT. No matter how many hoops you jump through, still using Chrome means it is being endorsed. Wish more people would reconsider it like you and jump ship!

I have been using Firefox since version 2.x and I never understood what downsides people find with it. I've used chrome and the only difference i saw was annoying pushes from google to log in so that i could be tracked all the time. Otherwise, it shows web pages, what more do you want?

> I have been using Firefox since version 2.x and I never understood what downsides people find with it.

For some weird reason somes sites just dont open on Firefox on my work computer when I connect to the company VPN on it. Safari and Chrome can open all sites just fine.

I really want to use Firefox especially for the container feature but just cannot figure out why somes sites dont work when I on the vpn.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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My comment didn't "imply" anything. I stated that Firefox may be coming to an end. Then I stated the facts that back up my belief: (1) Mozilla has over a billion dollars; and (2) they are reducing the amount of money allocated to Firefox development. I simply have no idea how you can possibly draw any other conclusion. It's not "FUD" either. If you can refute the article I posted, I will stop posting it and never spe…

> Because I care about Firefox and want to see it kill Chrome You're actively working against what you say you care about if you post a negative reply to a comment suggesting Firefox as alternative to Chrome. In a thread about Chrome's latest user-hostile feature of the week. Anyway, you brought attention to the issue that you care about going on at Mozilla. Let's hope that there is a way to improving that, simultane…

I'm doing what I think is right: spreading the word about the way they operate. I don't want people to be disappointed like I was. Disillusioned by false hope.

Maybe it will generate enough pressure to set them straight. Probably not.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Its 2023, how have we come so far with this nonsense. I would have thought Firefox would be king of the browsers by now. But nope, people love their data being sucked up and used by the big G.

Mozilla focused on the wrong things for a few years

It doesn't really matter what Mozilla did. They never had the budget to compete with Google on browser advertising anyway.

If you look at the market share progression of the old opera and mozilla vs. internet explorer, and you compare it to the stellar rise of Chrome when it came out, it's really obvious that Chrome's success is due mostly to advertising.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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And there is no end in sight. For the love of God, please switch to Firefox.

I have this weird issue with Firefox: any time when is fast forward in a YouTube video it drops my USB-C connections!

I have a similar issue with hardware accelerated videos in general that drops all my USB connections randomly when stopping or skipping in a video. I think it's a power state change issue with my GPU because it never happens if I have a video game running.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

#130
What's the point.

Yeah, these kinds of "features" are horribly invasive and anti-consumer, but so, so, so many people just could not give less of a shit as long as they can hit up Facebook or YouTube or whatever work requires them to visit.

It's not like the early 00s when Firefox rose to dominance because IE sucked so badly in comparison.

Chrome is not only the best and "most-compliant" web browser (isn't it awesome to be compliant with standards you created?), but it is also what most of the web tests against by default and, consequently, works the best with. Not that this even matters, really; most web traffic is shifting to the apps, which have free-reign to track everything you do.

Theoretically, app privacy scorecards should dampen this, but it's all too easy to tap "OK" to the "can I use your contacts, your mic, your camera and every sensor and contact I can get away with?"

I was not expecting to become a curmudgeon at 35, but between this, WEI, Cloudflare becoming the Internet's global firewall, and the Great Enshittification of Reddit, Twitter, and others, all of this bums me out. Anyone got a positive counterpoint?

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