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New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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What the heck are you on about? This is patently false. I've been using Mac hardware professionally since 05 in a ton of different environments. We very rarely had issues. Apple makes the best laptops in the world, nothing else comes remotely close.

Battery aside apple laptops are rather lame.

Battery's a pretty big fucking deal on a laptop tho.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Those are pretty standard Intel cards installed on laptops with Intel CPUs. ax201 or something. If "nothing-ever-works-without-fiddling" Linux is able to ship drivers for that card and work out of the box, I don't see why windows couldn't ship with drivers for that, especially since they seem to get updates via Windows update, so ms has them. Plus, if you're going to force people to use an internet account, maybe mak…

> Those are pretty standard Intel cards installed on laptops with Intel CPUs. ax201 or something If they were 'pretty standard' then they would be in the default list of drivers shipped with install media. If they weren't in the install media then: your media is older than the drivers your device isn't 'standard' device vendor doesn't give a shit if you can reinstall Windows and get the working WiFi out of the box >…

Your combative behavior here is entirely unwarranted. The only person blaming random chief executives here is you. If the drivers work fine in a standard Linux install, it is obviously not some obscure hardware setup.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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I can't comment on Office, Adobe and Visual Studio, but for Ableton or any other DAW, I would certainly choose macOS over Windows. Audio runs much smoother on Mac than on Windows. Lower latency, less dropouts, better overall stability from my experience. Too bad that audio is total joke on Linux. There's very good software, like BitWig and Reaper, but the audio subsystem is total mess doing random stuff all the time.…

The Windows Audio Stack had improvements in Win 10 for latency. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/a...

From personal experience, it definitely got better in Win10 but it is still not as consistently low-latency and stutter-free. I think there are just too many audio pipeline features (some of which are really quite nice and useful for non-music users) built into the OS to provide the same level of baseline performance, and each feature adds more obscure configuration gotchas.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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My experience with Windows 11 has been roughly bug free - but it’s not a pleasant place to be. Installing is a nightmare too with the online account requirement. You can circumvent with a shell but still annoying. I’ve been much happier with Debian 12 and KDE for my primary workstation. I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming.

It’s somewhat ironic that Windows users used to call Macs “toy computers”. Now most deeply technical people are using Macs or at least Linux or BSD and Windows is relegated to games. It seems Windows is for toy computers ;-)

Or, we're in an echo chamber where the vast majority of Windows users are not on HN. :)

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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> I "subscribed" to the preview track, and had to reformat my pc twice. "I subscribed to test betas and they were unstable. Thanks Bill Gates!"

Yeah this is the sarcastic take, but MS pushes people to get onto the insider preview to enable certain features. My surface pro wouldn't sleep properly, and only the "insider preview" would fix that for instance. There is a difference between having a few apps crash more often, and literally having the offical MS help tell you, the only solution is to reinstall everything.

> MS help tell you, the only solution is to reinstall everything.

They finally found out what everybody knew since Win 95 days: There is no problem in Windows(TM) that a complete reinstall cannot fix. /s

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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> I "subscribed" to the preview track, and had to reformat my pc twice. "I subscribed to test betas and they were unstable. Thanks Bill Gates!"

Yeah, I also don't get how people voluntarily choose to use a beta OS, and then complain that it broke. Like, my brother in Christ, that's why there's the stable version of that OS.

Because (i wish i was joking) Windows is a beta OS with the exception of some specific Service Packs. NT was stable only with SP6. 2000 only with the last SP when they discontinued development. Same for XP and 7 only the last SP was stable. I skipped Vista and 8, but 10 is a rolling release. Nothing is stable, everything is a moving target.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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I recently had the (dis)pleasure to install Windows 10 on a Dell XPS laptop from 2018. The Windows installer had no drivers for the nvme controller _that is provided by the CPU itself_, so a platform controller. Oh and getting the installer to recognize the drivers was much harder than the usual "stick the files on a thumb drive, plug to laptop, tell the installer". I had to generate a custom Windows ISO with the dri…

Yep, just as I said in the previous comment: everyone is at fault but for sure it wasn't the vendor of the device! How the vendor could be the culprit in doing something what would cripple the boot/install of the OS? Nonsense!

Dell, HP, Lenovo are all MS vendors and work close with MS for their drivers (or so they say).

The issue here is that MS plays the smart guy and installs his own buggy stuff, making it hard for the end user to use vendor supplied drivers, even reinstalling its own stuff with Windows update.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Yeah, I also don't get how people voluntarily choose to use a beta OS, and then complain that it broke. Like, my brother in Christ, that's why there's the stable version of that OS.

Because (i wish i was joking) Windows is a beta OS with the exception of some specific Service Packs. NT was stable only with SP6. 2000 only with the last SP when they discontinued development. Same for XP and 7 only the last SP was stable. I skipped Vista and 8, but 10 is a rolling release. Nothing is stable, everything is a moving target.

Funny, I never had OS issues with stability and been using Windows since 95. Had issue with other things.

What stability issues are you referring exactly?

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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My experience with Windows 11 has been roughly bug free - but it’s not a pleasant place to be. Installing is a nightmare too with the online account requirement. You can circumvent with a shell but still annoying. I’ve been much happier with Debian 12 and KDE for my primary workstation. I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming.

> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

> > I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming.

> - Office

In a corporate env maybe. Libreoffice is enough for home use.

> - Adobe

Only reader. For special pdfs.

> - Ableton

Never heard about it.

> - Visual Studio

What's wrong with vim ?

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Under the hood macOS is Unix though... so there is a lot to be said for that. I can run tools like sed, awk, grep right out of the box. As someone who is in a shell 24x7 on multiple remote linux servers it is nice to also have a very similar experience within my local desktop environment.

So then you just `wsl --install` and you get a proper Linux distribution. Also get the Windows Terminal from the store and you're off to the races. I honestly consider this a better experience compared to Apple's BSD tools and lack of first-party package manager.

> So then you just `wsl --install` and you get a proper Linux distribution.

You mean `wsl --install` will install Slackware on my computer ? /s

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