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How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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kimbernator wrote: post #32

I wonder how dating apps will fit into society in 10+ years - they are dominant now as the way for young people to find romantic partners, but from the accounts I've heard (all second-hand, I haven't used one in ~5 years) they appear to be getting worse and worse for people who are anything below average attractiveness (or perhaps are just bad at making an appealing profile). It makes me wonder if there will be a cor…

Most young men in the US are already alone[1]. And this will get only worse unless something radical happens. The dating apps strategies do not help. Reverting to offline dating will need to restore the environment that facilitates it. [1] https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-yo...

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Mordisquitos wrote: post #79
lapcat wrote: post #26

> With the exception of Bumble and Grindr, almost every popular American dating app is owned by a single company called Match Group, including Hinge, Tinder, Match.com, OkCupid, Plenty of Fish, and many others. This is truly a nightmare. How did we allow such a crucial human function, finding a mate, to become monopolized? Both Democrats and Republicans need to date (though maybe not each other), so the issue should…

> This is truly a nightmare. How did we allow such a crucial human function, finding a mate, to become monopolized? I totally agree with you, and I would go even further. I'm actually furious that an essential part of human social life has become commoditised by a for-profit industry led by publicly-traded corporations. It being almost a monopoly, hidden to "consumers" [0] under an illusion of choice, is only the poo…

Why would you need to be a billionaire to build a platform like you described? If you think you can't acquire users without big spending, then this platform is not really much better than existing ones?

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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monort wrote: post #122
Mordisquitos wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is truly a nightmare. How did we allow such a crucial human function, finding a mate, to become monopolized? I totally agree with you, and I would go even further. I'm actually furious that an essential part of human social life has become commoditised by a for-profit industry led by publicly-traded corporations. It being almost a monopoly, hidden to "consumers" [0] under an illusion of choice, is only the poo…

Why would you need to be a billionaire to build a platform like you described? If you think you can't acquire users without big spending, then this platform is not really much better than existing ones?

To be honest, I'm mostly joking about the billionaire thing. If I were emotionally invested enough in this idea above other parts of my life I would look for a way to get it moving. The problem is that, by its very nature, a non-profit open-source project like this could not attract venture capitalists or angel investors, lest it become the very thing it was created to challenge (*cough cough*, OpenAI, *cough cough*). A project like this would need venture altruists or angel donors instead to be feasible and sustainable — hence my fantasy of become stupidly rich to be able to get it moving, at the cost of downgrading to "normal rich".

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Mordisquitos wrote: post #123
monort wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you need to be a billionaire to build a platform like you described? If you think you can't acquire users without big spending, then this platform is not really much better than existing ones?

To be honest, I'm mostly joking about the billionaire thing. If I were emotionally invested enough in this idea above other parts of my life I would look for a way to get it moving. The problem is that, by its very nature, a non-profit open-source project like this could not attract venture capitalists or angel investors , lest it become the very thing it was created to challenge (*cough cough*, Open AI, *cough cough…

You don't need investors, unless you think you can't get users without buying them. The platform you described don't need much resources and can be bootstrapped. You can still capture just 1% of the value that Match Group captures and live nicely.

I think the reason we don't see competitors like that is that dating without aggressive monetization won't be much better for the average user.

Re: How Hinge's algorithm decides who you date

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Post by zo1 »

ryandrake wrote: post #85
lapcat wrote: post #76

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Society has changed, though. I've seen it during my lifetime. The pandemic certainly changed everything as far as in-person socialization is concerned. But even before the pandemic, people were becoming increasingly isolated and antisocial, and there are a lot of factors at play here. Technology has changed how we interact. Instead of looking around and striking up a conversation with a stranger, they have their head…

This is a great comment. The world (at least the US) has changed and IRL interactions are more fraught than when I was dating. So glad I'm married and don't have to go back to the scene. Especially your point about the danger of flirting. The difference between flirting (wanted attention) and creeping (unwanted attention) is entirely in the mind of the recipient, so you don't know which one you have done until they r…

I'm married too, with kids. I don't think we can just be okay with it for ourselves, we have to consider what awaits our children when they get to dating age. It's not enough for us to not destroy the world, we have to be custodians of it till we hand it over to the next generation.

I'm personally not hopeful. The world is going to shit, and the only option I have available to me to safeguard my kids future is to acquire as much wealth as possible for them.

If that doesn't work, that means a giant war or similar catastrophe has descended upon us and there is nothing I could have done anyways.

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