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The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

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Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unions. From my recent experience, unions can't help you keep remote work they way they work here today. I work(ed) at a unionized German company and when management call everyone back to the office after the Covid vaccination was done, it wasn't protested by the unions and everyone sowed up at the office without protest, and remote work was kept as "in case of emergency" perk you can get every now and then if you g…

In the orthodox Marxism still practiced by some Trotskyites, the factory worker is seen as a uniquely revolutionary class because of (1) the discipline that comes from factory work and (2) the factory as itself as a nexus of revolution: workers can organize there and ultimately seize control of the means of production. A knowledge worker who works at home on cloud servers has no spatial nexus to control. All communic…

>workers can organize there and ultimately seize control of the means of production.

Workers can try to seize the means of production, but without state support, the police or the military will come shoot and arrest you, like it happened many times in recent history. You need populace and political support for such movements, otherwise you're a terrorist/criminal.

>A knowledge worker who works at home on cloud servers has no spatial nexus to control. All communication between workers is electronically mediated, I guess union organizers can develop a parallel infrastructure, but the workplace itself is a natural place for organizing work to take place.

Knowledge workers have the balance of power in their favor, despite not having ways to physically seize the means of production, but as soon as the individual's knowledge becomes obsolete, commoditized or easily found elsewhere for cheaper, then those workers are shit out of luck if they don't keep up and adapt to a new hot thing.

>Once the factories left, however, people realized service work or no work was a lot worse and now a new factory in your town is one of the best things a politician can take credit for.

Unfortunately, we can't have a well functioning society where everyone is a remote worker. Someone still needs to fix your toilet, teach your kids, drive the train, build new houses, manufacture the stuf you use in your daily life like food and medical supplies.

Sure, you can have all your stuff manufactured offshore and import it, until your manufacturing trading partner has the upper hand and gives you the middle finger because he needs that stuff more urgently or he found a richer buyer, and now you're left wihtout stuff and with a bunch of laptop workers who can't manufacture the stuff you need because that knowledge is not open-source and you since lost all that knowledge over decades of deindustrialization when you gave it to your manufacturing trading partner in exchange for cheap stuff and access to his domestic market.

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

#122
A university friend of mine is head of a European non-IT company with a an upper five digit number of employees. A few weeks ago we had breakfast and among other things talked about remote working. He points why he wants his people back in office were pretty clear:

- he sees productivity slowly but steadily deteriorating

- especially weaker and new employees are falling behind

- restructuring has become very hard

- employees who cannot work remotely (they have quite a few factories and workshops) feel treated unfair

- he does not give a shit about commercial real estate

Of course this is only anecdotal, but I only know one person who could be called a member of "The Elite" and his views do not support the author's claims.

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

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post #24

How are "the elite" forcing companies that do not own real estate and who rent their office space to mandate RTO? How are they forcing these companies to renew their leases when they expire?

Let me tell you how all this works: you see, Team America is funded by the corporations, so they fight for the corporations... while they sit in their corporation buildings... and they're all corporation-y... and they make lots of money!

    Someone always playing
    Corporation games
    Who cares they're always changing
    Corporation names

    We just want to dance here
    Someone stole the stage
    They call us irresponsible
    Write us off the page
I'll dance from home (DFH) thank you very much.

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

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This isn't particularly well-argued. Just a lot of handwavy grievance about "elites" as though there's some kind of coordinated conspiracy.

I read the article more as an implied warning: a lot of paper wealth is tied up in commercial real estate, and that wealth could evaporate. The people who own that paper wealth aren't just going to sit back and let that happen. Yes, for many companies there is no direct way to force them to bring workers back to the office. But it might be worth taking some time to think about what else might be tried.

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weren't people right about this though? Institutionalized racism and sexism was everywhere, neoliberalism created the most unequal society since the era we unironically call "the robber-baron era", the carceral system is truly heinous (the ban on weed alone was just a joke), etc etc etc.

Sure, there are all sorts of problems with capitalism. But as Churchill said about democracy, it the worst form of economic organization except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.

Eh I would say Socialism as practiced in Western Europe and the Nordics is doing better. They're out doing the US in most important metrics, and they're trending more Socialist (though we'll see what intensifying climate migration and other climate change consequences bring).

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

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post #2

What recourse do we as workers have? We can soft boycott and quit/stop applying to onsite positions, but there are hundreds of thousands willing and able to take these positions.

Have somebody ,,ticket in'' for you and accept that sometimes bs things are parts of your job. Managers don't care as long as the numbers are good.

Re: The elite's war on remote work has nothing to do with productivity

#130
post #24

How are "the elite" forcing companies that do not own real estate and who rent their office space to mandate RTO? How are they forcing these companies to renew their leases when they expire?

In principle it could be straight up targeted propaganda "making" the bosses do that.

I have no idea if the reality is more that, or more the banal "nobody is organising anything like this and suggestions to the contrary are just conspiracy theories, the bosses genuinely believe what they're saying".

I currently have a boss who appears to sincerely want people back in the office; he doesn't want to be the CEO of a 100% remote company.

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