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Those $100 2TB drives are probably because of this: https://www.theverge.com/22291828/sandisk-extreme-pro-portab...
I also had a problem with Sandisk 2TB portable SSD. But it dies for a few days and comes back. It's wired. I will not keep anything important in that drive after this incident.
I was looking for some 8TB m2 drives recently and they are still surprisingly expensive, considering you can get 2TB ones on sale for less than $100. But there are barely any options too, still a niche market https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#A=600...
I think with the rise of streaming and cloud storage, the need for large storage devices on a personal level is really declining for most people.
Also - it starts getting very spendy for cloud storage after a few TB.
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This is bizarre to me. Cloud storage kills the need for small drives. So for the individual with modest storage needs, the cloud is relatively inexpensive and thought free. But the moment you get over 2TB the cloud gets extremely expensive. So if you're a person who needs to store a lot, large drives make a lot of sense. This to me, it's the opposite of observably true. You would think large drives would be most in d…
The cloud isn't supplying storage, the cloud is providing reasons not to need storage in the first place (piracy vs streaming).
Every year I have more pictures and more documents and more stuff in general to store. That or I have to fuss with pruning things, which is a PITA and I'm reluctant to do.
I was looking for some 8TB m2 drives recently and they are still surprisingly expensive, considering you can get 2TB ones on sale for less than $100. But there are barely any options too, still a niche market https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#A=600...
I think with the rise of streaming and cloud storage, the need for large storage devices on a personal level is really declining for most people.
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I clearly remember getting an 80gb drive, circa 2001-2002 I think, and talking with my friends about how impossible it would be to ever fill.
The problem is that the size of media has been growing exponentially. When I keep wondering how my phone is running out of space every time its images / videos. Even when you look at an app that is like 400 MB its not 400 MB of code, its like 350 MB of images and 50 MB of code.
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Aside from lack of demand, there are some significant technical reasons that contribute to 8TB M.2 drives being expensive niche products, both stemming from the fact that 8TB of flash is still a lot of chips: PC OEMs prefer M.2 SSDs that are single-sided because many thin laptop designs require that, and many low-end SSD controllers literally don't have the pin count necessary to interface with that many flash chips.
The lack of demand vanishes once prices come down to something reasonable.
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I think with the rise of streaming and cloud storage, the need for large storage devices on a personal level is really declining for most people.
I think with the pricing of cloud storage and photo, video and assets taking more and more space, the opposite is true. For example apple requires larger storage to even use prores: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212832 Or Baldur's gate 3 takes 123GB of storage for the install.
I don't think this is about capacity, but rather it's about performance: small SSDs are slower because they have fewer flash chips to write to in parallel. But that effect goes away as you move up to higher capacities and hit other bottlenecks; even high-end PCIe gen5 SSDs that are too power-hungry for anything other than desktops and servers reach full speed by 2TB.
It's QLC NAND (~1000 program/erase cycles from https://www.purestorage.com/knowledge/what-is-qlc-flash.html ). eesh. [Update] from https://www.anandtech.com/show/20007/samsung-teases-256-tb-s... : "Samsung's 256 TB SSD is based on 3D QLC NAND memory and probably uses innovative packaging to cram multiple 3D QLC NAND devices into stacks." 3D QLC should have higher endurance than regular QLC. We'll have to wait and see…
• 4-bit per cell = QLC ······ 1'000 write cycles per cell • 3-bit per cell = TLC ······· 3'000 write cycles per cell • 2-bit per cell = MLC ····· 10'000 write cycles per cell • 2-bit per cell = eMLC ··· 30'000 write cycles per cell • 1-bit per cell = SLC ··· 100'000 write cycles per cell The above degradation cycles are optimist. Looks like the SSD technology is not evolving, but counter-evolving in terms of data int…
Some of this is from more advanced SSD controllers with more robust error correction, enabling drives to get better uncorrectable bit error rates out of flash with a higher raw bit error rate. But most of this is because SLC and MLC simply had more write endurance than people needed, and sacrificing endurance to get higher capacity made for more useful drives. And as larger SSDs have become more affordable, SSDs have been taking over more use cases from hard drives, so unlike a decade ago SSDs aren't just for frequently-modified hot data any more—you don't need as many P/E cycles or DWPD when most of your data isn't changing very often.
I was looking for some 8TB m2 drives recently and they are still surprisingly expensive, considering you can get 2TB ones on sale for less than $100. But there are barely any options too, still a niche market https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#A=600...
Those $100 2TB drives are probably because of this: https://www.theverge.com/22291828/sandisk-extreme-pro-portab...
Any bets on the price for this?