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The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Perhaps the difference is having heritage vs having lived for a large portion of life and still having ties and relatives there? Also, please elaborate. How does does having come from Poland figure into this conversation? You yearn for Soviet rule and hate what capitalism stands for? Or sympathize with Russian justifications for their aggression against a neighbor state and their own people? I can only speculate lack…

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Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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> Yes, there is nothing the Russians can do with my data that my government hasn't done. I understand anti-government sentiment but whenever I see a statement like this it makes me devalue anything that comes after it. You really think there is nothing a foreign government might do with your personal data that your government hasn't already done? You really feel like there's a similar level of accountability at stake…

Given that they live in the US/UK and not in Russia, yes. As I understand it, the claim is not that the US/UK are as evil as Russia, or even more or less morally equivalent. The claim is that the US/UK hoover up online information just like Russia (maybe even more), and that they are more exposed to what the US/UK governments do than they are to what Russia does . Without minimizing the misdeeds of Russia, without re…

Haven't we seen by now countless claims of the Russian government influencing western democracies through things like ad tech?

When millions of us give them our data these kinds of attacks become easier and easier.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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> cheaply bought up state assets In the west, we call that "privatization", and it happens pretty frequently, and it's common for the process to be technically open, but practically exclude all but a handful of buyers. It's also common for those buyers to make a lot of money from the assets before returning them to the state 20 years later, unmaintained and debt laden.

> In the west, we call that "privatization", and it happens pretty frequently That's not even slightly true? It's headline news and massively controversial every time this happens.

it is deeply true, and everyone actually involved would know that

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Whatever a person's stance on ongoing political events or active conflicts, punishing them en masse for choosing to be born on the wrong side of an arbitrary border is nonsensical.

And it’s antithetical to western values. Historically, we don’t do collective punishment - yet here we are.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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>Do we want, at a time when Russia is considering the UK as an enemy, to be providing all our personal details to a server in Moscow? Depends how good the search is. Google doesn’t seem to want to provide me proper results anymore, even very basic image search tasks on google now net you only about 20 results all of which are wrong or useless. Yandex image search actually works. If you don’t want me to use the Russia…

There is a reasonable argument that, as a minor nobody, we should rather use services from hostile countries. It isn't feasible for Russia to to compel someone in an English-speaking country to do something unpleasant. That is a lot more than can be said for the local police or politicians. Russian corruption doesn't generally touch Western governments - the atmosphere is too hostile to it.

Many Jews got killed in the 40s because they'd registered themselves as Jews many years back, way before Hitler was a thing.

A lot of Ukrainians suddenly found themselves on Russian [claimed] soil and under Russian jurisdiction just a few months ago.

There are certain nations before which I'm not going to incriminate myself, out of precaution, Russia and China among them.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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I wrote a comment a few years back how I was using Yandex quite a bit at the time because there are things I'm simply unable to find on Google – sites like sci-hub for example. Today though I find myself using it daily. The results are far from perfect, but I've never suspected them to be randomly hiding or suppressing search results like many of the popular Western alternatives. I don't use image search much, but ye…

www.tineye.com is also a pretty good image searcher.

It's better than what Google offers now, but still worse than Yandex.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Context: Yandex is in the news right now because a couple of days ago its cofounder and former CEO Arkady Volozh was caught trying to hide his Russian past [0], and today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war [1], almost 1.5 years after the full-scale invasion began. [0] https://kz.kursiv.media/en/2023-08-07/co-founder-of-yandex-e... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-yandex-volozh..…

> today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war Would you issue such a statement in his position? Think carefully. If you don't, you will probably have twitter brigades trying to smear your name. If you do, your family back home might be at risk, and you will probably never be able to visit them again. Personally, I cannot in good faith demand anyone condemn the war, if to do so, they are putting fami…

His family has left Russia back in 2014.

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Context: Yandex is in the news right now because a couple of days ago its cofounder and former CEO Arkady Volozh was caught trying to hide his Russian past [0], and today he finally issued a public statement condemning the war [1], almost 1.5 years after the full-scale invasion began. [0] https://kz.kursiv.media/en/2023-08-07/co-founder-of-yandex-e... [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-yandex-volozh..…

Kazakhstani (born in Kazakh SSR, Soviet Union) ethnic Russian stops mentioning “Russia” in his biography during a period of increased Russophobia.

More news at eight?

Re: The Yandex leak: How a Russian search giant uses consumer data

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Whatever a person's stance on ongoing political events or active conflicts, punishing them en masse for choosing to be born on the wrong side of an arbitrary border is nonsensical.

And it’s antithetical to western values. Historically, we don’t do collective punishment - yet here we are.

I'm sorry but having observed this since 24/02, collective punishment is very much part of the actual Western values.

(Disclaimer: I'm a Russian émigré, not in the West myself but have friends there.)

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