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We are all animals at night
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#122This is very well written and gripping even. I don’t see the negatives other commenters are pointing out. Yes she’s talking about her perceptions born from her clients and years worked. That’s an absolute right for all of us, right? To simply relate the experiences we’ve had. She’s definitely seen a side of humanity that, while seen by many, doesn’t quite often get public visibility-sunlight. And lo and behold, it’s…
> I don’t see the negatives other commenters are pointing out. Yes she’s talking about her perceptions born from her clients and years worked. That’s an absolute right for all of us, right? To simply relate the experiences we’ve had. She's not "simply relating experiences" though. She goes beyond that, turning them into a general sociopolitical claim: > Unlike sex work, my “good” jobs didn’t threaten to overthrow tra…
Have men been told they're entitled to sex and attention for free tho? I kinda feel it's the exact opposite. Men are told they need to pay for meals, rooms, travel, and housing and custody later. Men are told they should be the proactive side and take the risk of being rejected. I'd even say (at least in TV shows and movies) men are expected to be the funny ones and provide entertaining values in a relationship.
I'm not saying that intrinsitically wrong or right. I just like to know in which culture men are told these.
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#123This article is too left-wing echochamber for my tastes. Of the form - it can be done, and no-one literally dies, therefore it may be done.
People don't work to marginalize prostitution because it's "the only field in which women outearn men".
People work to marginalize prostitution because it's fundamentally morally bankrupt.
Most well adjusted people eventually realise that casual sex is not the key to happiness in life. Not all of them will admit it, though.
The illusions that one can have sex without emotional attachment, that relationships are just a side quest and careers are more important, all of that stuff comes back to bite people eventually.
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#124Referring to the title. Speak for yourself.
Article is not something I was expecting.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don’t see the negatives other commenters are pointing out. Yes she’s talking about her perceptions born from her clients and years worked. That’s an absolute right for all of us, right? To simply relate the experiences we’ve had. She's not "simply relating experiences" though. She goes beyond that, turning them into a general sociopolitical claim: > Unlike sex work, my “good” jobs didn’t threaten to overthrow tra…
Have men been told they're entitled to sex and attention for free tho? I kinda feel it's the exact opposite. Men are told they need to pay for meals, rooms, travel, and housing and custody later. Men are told they should be the proactive side and take the risk of being rejected. I'd even say (at least in TV shows and movies) men are expected to be the funny ones and provide entertaining values in a relationship. I'm…
I think this is accurate. Men are often ridiculed for thinking they are entitled anything. But especially so for sex and female attention.
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#126I worked long months in the forestry industry (re-planting trees) during university it’s not so tough as sex work but sometimes people throw it in the bag of “low-skill” or “manual labour” jobs as if thought or critical thinking we’re not required. I have to say now working a “real” job now (for salary benefits etc.) I know way more forestry folks who could do my job today (consulting) than current coworkers who coul…
I used to weld in a shipyard, and one of the things I miss about it was that literally everyone I worked with was skilled and knowledgeable about our work. There was literally no way to fake being able to do what we did, so all the ego-first blowhards crashed out before they could affect our day-to-day much. It was refreshing.
Burn that jet rod! All trades are like that to one degree or another. I end up working with a lot of factory/plant maintenance personnel, and yeah there's the occasional dropout who's not pulling his weight, but mostly it's super competent people no matter what their responsibility is.
In jobs at semiconductor fab places, usually the head of maintenance holds a master's or PhD and still rebuilds turbopumps and blown out ion gauges when needed.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you think causes this difference?
There is a comradery in that it sucks, you know it sucks and that we are just getting through it. No one is out to "get" you. You are also part of the suck club. The second you get another job they are reminded of all the people who take advantage of people in the suck club. You got out. They didn't.
"Embrace the suck."
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#128Let's get this straight. The person blessed with what is basically a panhandling superpower -- an attractive female body -- somehow says her marks , the ones paying $80, have an entitled attitude toward sexual attention. Pause and think about that. Do you think these guys had a Plan B to buy them an English degree? These places conduct zero-sum economic activity. One person loses money, one person gains money, and no…
I had similar thoughts. She gets to take money from lonely men and then call them the bad guys. Saying it out loud costs HN points though.
>She gets to take money from lonely men and then call them the bad guys.
Genuinely curious to know where you think she called them "the bad guys". Mind quoting a specific passage?
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don’t see the negatives other commenters are pointing out. Yes she’s talking about her perceptions born from her clients and years worked. That’s an absolute right for all of us, right? To simply relate the experiences we’ve had. She's not "simply relating experiences" though. She goes beyond that, turning them into a general sociopolitical claim: > Unlike sex work, my “good” jobs didn’t threaten to overthrow tra…
Have men been told they're entitled to sex and attention for free tho? I kinda feel it's the exact opposite. Men are told they need to pay for meals, rooms, travel, and housing and custody later. Men are told they should be the proactive side and take the risk of being rejected. I'd even say (at least in TV shows and movies) men are expected to be the funny ones and provide entertaining values in a relationship. I'm…
> Have men been told they're entitled...
Well...it is nice that you seem unaware of Andrew Tate, and the millions of boys and men who are eager followers of him and similar creeps...
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#130Reminds me of the show Insomniac with Dave Attell
Hey, someone else watched it, too! :P