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Why Python Is Terrible

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Post by JetSpiegel »

IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #39
zffr wrote: post #12

> And, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you can code Python but not Go (or another decent programming language), you probably have no business writing software for a living. I know it sounds harsh and I apologize for that, but writing software is a profession and hence you should have the knowledge, skill, and experience to use professional tools. Part of the profession of software engineering is maintaining…

Let me ask the obvious question. Why hasn’t the go community, of professional software engineers built an even richer ecosystem of libraries? Is it ennui, incompetence, or attitude? As Go came from Google, is that the attitude was, “I am a professional I’ll just write my own code to solve X”, rather than considering building a library that others can use? Are libraries harder to build in Go? Is adoption of libraries…

What's the Go community? Google employees? There's no Go community, it's a corporate language.

Why hasn't the Visual Basic for Office community produced more libraries?

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Post by JJMcJ »

Exuma wrote: post #59
bragr wrote: post #24

I wish people could be honest and say they don't care for some language or framework or OS for personal or aesthetic reasons, rather than having to round it up to being objectively bad, but then I suppose nobody probably would click on "I don't like Python and have got some nits to pick". Oh and he just says what is supposed to be quiet part at the end: >And, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you can code Pyt…

I see this sort of person as an extremely rigid, unbending, dime a dozen type person even if they’re very intelligent. I’m in this business to succeed and build and create things, there is very much an “energetic” aspect and his energy is dead as fuck. It’s a very simple fact that some see it, and some don’t. He’s one who doesn’t, and all those that see it can see it so clearly. He’s most definitely not someone I wou…

He published an article in June titled "It is not cool to be unkind!".

Interesting contradiction.

I know someone like that, very energetic, full of ideas, but so stubborn I'm sure it holds him back.

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Post by jengroff2 »

bragr wrote: post #24

I wish people could be honest and say they don't care for some language or framework or OS for personal or aesthetic reasons, rather than having to round it up to being objectively bad, but then I suppose nobody probably would click on "I don't like Python and have got some nits to pick". Oh and he just says what is supposed to be quiet part at the end: >And, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you can code Pyt…

Clearly a Go enthusiast who never mastered Python. And, really, Go? If your were pushing Rust mayyyybe I could give you the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Why Python Is Terrible

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Post by jengroff2 »

JJMcJ wrote: post #122
Exuma wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this sort of person as an extremely rigid, unbending, dime a dozen type person even if they’re very intelligent. I’m in this business to succeed and build and create things, there is very much an “energetic” aspect and his energy is dead as fuck. It’s a very simple fact that some see it, and some don’t. He’s one who doesn’t, and all those that see it can see it so clearly. He’s most definitely not someone I wou…

He published an article in June titled "It is not cool to be unkind!". Interesting contradiction. I know someone like that, very energetic, full of ideas, but so stubborn I'm sure it holds him back.

Lol bragr did not offer any ideas, only cranky complaints. Who cares?

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Post by justcool393 »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #44
cjfd wrote: post #6

Yes, pretty much agree with this word for word. It is very, very difficult to refactor a python application in any sort of reliable way. The standard way of error handling in python appears to be to present the user with a stack trace. Very user friendly (not!). Now people will say that, for instance, mypy can help with this. That is true but since projects can be started without type checking chances are that your p…

I couldn’t (and still can’t) believe that non-exceptional situations are considered exceptional. Such as, there not being a way to parse a string into a number and return a value indicating if it was successful or not. With Python everything is an exception. Messy and inelegant. Of course this mess is called “pythonic” so everything is fine… https://blog.codinghorror.com/exception-driven-development/a... https://stac…

> parse a string into a number and return a value indicating if it was successful or not.

Eric Lippert had a decent blog post[1] back in 2008 on this titled "Vexing Exceptions" with regards to .NET.

[1]: https://ericlippert.com/2008/09/10/vexing-exceptions/

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