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Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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You are just giving your secrets to a company you can't change instead of a goverment you can elect.

The company doesn't have a hundred thousand armed officers with the ability to arrest / kill me for anything they can claim they found. Government comes equipped with legal violence, the company comes equipped with targeted ads

And the company can give your data to the government with no recourse available to you and no warrant required from the government.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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I think Meta _needs_ WhatsApp to be their loss-leader (not really, but you know) when it comes to security. They always get to say "oh but WhatsApp is E2E!! We do care about security!"

The ironic thing is that WhatsApp very heavily pushes users into Google account backups, which are unencrypted, giving government agencies all the access they want. I remember some talk about those getting encrypted, don't k ow if that has happened yet.

You can encrypt the Google drive backup actually. It's just a toggle switch on the backup menu setting to enable it.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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I wonder why the UK legislators not preparing a new regulation mandating every keys to every door and safe having a bypass mechanism for government officials.

Behind every door and every locked place there could be child pornography and illicit materials hidden!! Every house, every hotel safe are suspects!

Criminal oversight, criminal oversight!

(and if they think their reasoning for backdoors into online chat and conversation is mandated by this supid reasoning of theirs then it must be valid for all entrance doors of every home and buidlding and every locked spaces as well! Getting easy access to material without assistance or knowledge of the people involved.)

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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This is a scam by the UK government, they don't care about child abuse, they are going to look into all sorts of communications to leverage people. If they cared about child abuse they would have shut down the open child prostitution rings running rampant. They openly let it continue because they are afraid of being branded racist since the gangs running them are minorities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_ch…

The Wikipedia article doesn’t exactly support your claim.

Fair enough, how about this one

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/1-000-ch...,

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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This is a scam by the UK government, they don't care about child abuse, they are going to look into all sorts of communications to leverage people. If they cared about child abuse they would have shut down the open child prostitution rings running rampant. They openly let it continue because they are afraid of being branded racist since the gangs running them are minorities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_ch…

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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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The Wikipedia article doesn’t exactly support your claim.

Fair enough, how about this one https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/1-000-ch... ,

I agree with your broader message, UK really wants to dragnet data.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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It's true, they merely have enough cash on hand to fund a small army, enough legal power to crush you in court with anything you attempt. Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. They're not some miraculous pinnacles of good in a sea of evil. It's just that they merely need to flex the law at you to destroy your life forever. Apple is no different, they'll hire the Pinkertons and break your…

>Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. Ok, I'll play along. Suppose Tim Cook wakes up tomorrow and decides for some reason he wants me dead. How exactly does he do it?

I would assume he brainwashes a male model to kill you.

Sorry for the Zoolander reference. I couldn't help it

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Not only is privacy a fundamental right within a society but it is fundamentally necessary to the advancement, and thus long term survival, of any society.

To be honest that sounds like both an idealised slogan and a sophism empty of logic. Can you expand upon how the advancements in western society since (say) WWII have been neccesarily dependant upon privacy?

As long as humans remain irrational and tribalism exists, privacy is essential to anyone that isn't the most boring, vanilla, cookie person that has any amount of non-mainstream ideas or beliefs or qualities.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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This is a scam by the UK government, they don't care about child abuse, they are going to look into all sorts of communications to leverage people. If they cared about child abuse they would have shut down the open child prostitution rings running rampant. They openly let it continue because they are afraid of being branded racist since the gangs running them are minorities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_ch…

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What? The police openly admitted after an investigation that this is the reason they let it continue for generations. I'm framing this in reference to the UK government claiming they need the information to prevent child trafficking while their track record indicates that even with data they ignored it for decades. Please save the hysteria and wild accusations for Twitter

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/1-000-ch...

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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post #114

This is a scam by the UK government, they don't care about child abuse, they are going to look into all sorts of communications to leverage people. If they cared about child abuse they would have shut down the open child prostitution rings running rampant. They openly let it continue because they are afraid of being branded racist since the gangs running them are minorities. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_ch…

I think it's pretty ridiculous to think there aren't white people dealing in organized sexual abuse of children

Who said there wasn't? I'm not saying only minorities do this, far from. I'm saying the police openly ignored it because they were minorities in this case. This is not some sort of accusation that only minorities abuse kids, only that the government that wants your data to protect kids is questionable at best in this area.
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