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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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As long as you avoid things that are paid for by ads, there's no moral problem.

Advertising is inherently immoral and it's our moral obligation to drive advertisers into bankruptcy. All advertisers are liars. Even when they're not directly saying untrue things, they're presenting a one-sided view of the truth, to the extent of being intentionally misleading. The harm done by these lies is incalculable. The distraction. The loss of self-esteem caused by ads always telling us we aren't enough, don…

> Advertising is inherently immoral

Why? In principle, advertising is a way to propagate information in a market, trying to match offer with demand. Without any such mechanism, markets would be hugely inefficient (i.e., it would be annoying to find a shop selling what you are looking for, since you would need to visit many before finding one that sells that thing).

The problem with ads, like you are saying, is that being scummy and dishonest is by far the most effective way of attracting demand.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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I'm completely anti advert. They declared war on civilization 20 years ago and don't deserve to be treated as anything but a parasitic cultural disease. It didn't have to be this way, but that's where they took us.

20 years ago? Advertising has corrupted every public medium since the dawn of print media, arguably even before that. In the 19th century, it was quackery and false advertising in newspapers, making snake oil salesmen rich. In the first half of the 20th century, advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers, as pioneered by Edward Bernays[1], making tobacco companies rich. Radio…

i find it doubly interesting that edward bernays's uncle was sigmund freud, and his nephew a founder and ceo of netflix.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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post #34

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Classic Streisand effect

Oh man, I'd never heard of NewPipe until now. I've literally had it installed for three minutes, and I am amazed. I was able to dial up a music video that I frequently listen to without ads, I could immediately background the app, and even turn off my screen while still listening.

> I could immediately background the app, and even turn off my screen while still listening.

Ads are a major nuisance but those features are also really important because YouTube deliberately crippled their free-as-in-beer mobile app, to push folks toward a paid app.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

Is "zstd" a typo? Couldn't find any sources on it (unless we mean the compression standard), including Wikipedia.

Sorry, I always mix the two together. I meant zlibrary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library

Most search results on google give fake clones. The current urls in wikipedia seem to be accurate. Also, use the Tor version because it has far more books.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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post #113
post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

Is "zstd" a typo? Couldn't find any sources on it (unless we mean the compression standard), including Wikipedia.

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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Advertising is inherently immoral and it's our moral obligation to drive advertisers into bankruptcy. All advertisers are liars. Even when they're not directly saying untrue things, they're presenting a one-sided view of the truth, to the extent of being intentionally misleading. The harm done by these lies is incalculable. The distraction. The loss of self-esteem caused by ads always telling us we aren't enough, don…

> Advertising is inherently immoral Why? In principle, advertising is a way to propagate information in a market, trying to match offer with demand. Without any such mechanism, markets would be hugely inefficient (i.e., it would be annoying to find a shop selling what you are looking for, since you would need to visit many before finding one that sells that thing). The problem with ads, like you are saying, is that b…

You can look things up when you need something, you don't need to wait for an ad to annoy you to discover something.

What's more, usually, you hear ads for big players, not the small ones, which are often the most interesting.

In particular, hearing about NordVPN every other video is not necessary.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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post #80

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20 years ago? Advertising has corrupted every public medium since the dawn of print media, arguably even before that. In the 19th century, it was quackery and false advertising in newspapers, making snake oil salesmen rich. In the first half of the 20th century, advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers, as pioneered by Edward Bernays[1], making tobacco companies rich. Radio…

> advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers Advertising and propaganda have always been the exact same thing, and in at least some latin languages it is plainly called propaganda in all occasions. As in people will say that they work in propaganda and universities offer degrees in propaganda.

After WWII in US propaganda was renamed to "public relations".

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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NewPipe is excellent. I was disappointed that it was not available for desktop until I discovered tartube which will download video files from almost any website easily

tartube is only available on Sourceforge. I thought that was a malware infested download site?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Praying they don't touch Brave browser! Most of my YouTube is thorough it these days.

Isn't this totally irrelevant? Do you really expect a DMCA takedown for a browser? So why mention it?

I guess it's an IMoB (Irrelevant Mention of Brave)

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Advertising is inherently immoral and it's our moral obligation to drive advertisers into bankruptcy. All advertisers are liars. Even when they're not directly saying untrue things, they're presenting a one-sided view of the truth, to the extent of being intentionally misleading. The harm done by these lies is incalculable. The distraction. The loss of self-esteem caused by ads always telling us we aren't enough, don…

> Advertising is inherently immoral Why? In principle, advertising is a way to propagate information in a market, trying to match offer with demand. Without any such mechanism, markets would be hugely inefficient (i.e., it would be annoying to find a shop selling what you are looking for, since you would need to visit many before finding one that sells that thing). The problem with ads, like you are saying, is that b…

And that is a huge part of problem with sustainability and magnification of problems that would otherwise stay local. PFAS, microplastics, pollution... It's all consequence of overproduction of useless things that are consumed by society manipulated by ads.

The product is "ad" itself if it is good. If not, you need extra advertisements.

For me it is immoral to consume ads.

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