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I think Facebook/Instagrams very "PC-model" of moderation will allow for Twitter to coexist with them.

There's a tangible difference in Twitter now that Musk took over. Raunchy, sometimes offensive jokes are now actually possible on the site. I use Twitter a lot more than I ever did because of it. I don't want Instagram 2.0 with nothing but "models" and stolen videos.

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I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Why does everyone have to disclaim that they would be a fan Meta/FB? We already know that everyone hates Meta on HN; gets kind of old, just express your unbiased opinions.

I felt like I needed to qualify it since I'm pretty aggressively claiming they're going to defenestrate twitter here.

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Look at that app privacy report. I didn’t expect anything less from Meta. Let’s hope they aren’t using all our Mastodon accounts for advertising too.

Well I for one am actually looking forward to relevant ads.

On Twitter I've been shown everything from industrial mining supplies, nipple covers, psychology research papers, super yachts, home shopping network junk and just now an ad for an oral dosing technology conference.

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#124

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Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…

As someone who wants all of the other things he's supposed to be building, I can't imagine how you would not see Twitter as an objective step back. Every single change he has made to Twitter is exclusively to claw back income from users because he made all of the advertisers leave. Anyone competent would have just added the features they wanted without burning 80% of the company's income and staff.

The cherry (or turd?) on top is that the platform is manned by a skeleton crew.

I kid you not: I recently saw a screenshot of a post by an engineer asking ex-Twitter engineers for help debugging an issue.. on Blind. Mind you, I don’t blame the engineer at all: it just gives you an idea of the mess Musk has made for himself.

I think the fact that the platform is still running is a testament to those who built & documented the infra. It’s also a feather on the cap for those who remain to man the ship, particularly if there was no other choice.

One catastrophic outage is all it really takes at this point.

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#125

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Seems closer to the ending at this point (for Twitter).

So, the ending of twitter is to switch to Threads with FB's content moderation guidelines? I don't think so. We have social media fatigue rn. Twitter is is ok to get info really fast, rarely goes down, you have access to all kind of views (from extreme left to extreme right). This is the main reason gab, truth social, etc... won't be mainstream. Fb hasn't been original from a long time. From trying to launch a substa…

> Twitter is is ok to get info really fast, rarely goes down, you have access to all kind of views (from extreme left to extreme right).

Twitter was ok to get (and, equally important in my opinion, share) info really fast; now you need to have an account, be logged in, and be under your meager daily quota to even be allowed to see anything. And everyone you want to share info with needs to do the same. The recent changes have pretty severely undermined what made Twitter stand out among its larger competitors.

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#126

I was never able to create an Instagram account because Instagram would just instantly ban any account I created for paranoid anti-spam reasons. Apparently this is [a common problem]( https://old.reddit.com/r/Instagram/comments/85wbk1/banned_im... ). So I'm not looking forward to trying to sign up with them.

Had the same experience with Facebook. Looking back, I’m glad it happened that way.

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#127

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Will they win the journalist contingent? Twitter won mostly on news.

Facebook has celebrity influencers but that is a different demographic.

People are not interchangeable. Eg Journalists would make a very dull Instagram.

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This has been known to be coming for quite a while, so it’s probably just opportune timing on their part being close enough to ready to ship. But hooooly crap does it underscore how much of a catastrophe Musk’s actions are.

Musk's actions generally speaking make a lot of financial sense, it's just that he bought a company that wasn't founded on financial sense, and now all that debt requires payment because the economy is in tatters

> Musk's actions generally speaking make a lot of financial sense, it's just that he bought a company that wasn't founded on financial sense...

He bought it for ~40% more than it was valued and then scared away a lot of advertisers. That does not make financial sense, and is in large part the root of Twitter/his money problems.

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Disappointing that competitors are bootstrapping new social networks by mass-scraping Twitter data. This is almost certainly what Elon was referring to earlier this week; the same thing happened with Substack Notes. Hope Twitter pursues legal action against Meta for this.

As respectfully as possible: can you define what you mean by scraping? Because it seems very much like you don't understand what that word means or are using it very idiosyncratically.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Reminds me of how Instagram absorbed Snapchat usecases with stories. Instagram tackled the competition for ephemeral stories simply by implementing Stories as a feature.

This time, Threads is a fully fledged app. Getting users to adopt a new app might take as much time as getting Messenger installed. Still, Instagram has a robust social graph to lead users towards downloading it. In fact, they seem to have already onboarded users when they implemented part of Threads with the status update feature in the Instagram messages view.

Twitter will probably remain used by relatively "anti-social" people. In the States, that may be by politicized users, fueled by Elon's freedom fighting. Here in Japan, Twitter is very popular because of the sense of anonymity, coupled with the use of Kanji characters that achieves concision within 140 characters. Instagram might be too social for us (esp. male older than 25).

It will probably pain me to see the diaspora of users among many microblogging services. The transition to a new microblogging hub may be painful for both Twitter Inc (ie. X Corp) and Twitter users.

It's funny to see that Threads is the re-implementation of Facebook status updates before news articles swamped the Newsfeed. Meta's microblogging came back full circle.

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