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Windows 8 Consumer Preview released.
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Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview released.
#122Engadget's conclusion: "We really liked Windows 7 when it launched. It felt like a big step forward in the short time that had passed since Vista. Now, as we creep closer to a likely release near the end of this year, we can't shake a sense of doubt. Windows 8 still feels like two very different operating systems trying to be one. The potential is hugely alluring -- a single OS to rule both the tablet and the desktop…
I think they should clearly separate tablet and desktop interfaces and switch between them based on context (like what Canonical is planning to do with their "Ubuntu for Android"). That is: you get only a classic desktop (+ windowed Metro apps) when your slate is attached to a docking station and you only get the tablet interface otherwise. And then provide a switch within Control Panel to get the hybrid experience,…
Right now ARM tablets only have the Metro interface period -- there is no desktop interface installed at all. Only PC's have both interfaces.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Apple is slowly converging OSX and iOS into one platform, "inspired by iPad", etc. Microsoft isn't doing that. They are smashing the two together at once, Apple emphasizes that iOS and OSX fundamentally different platforms and will stay so, and says they're borrowing relevant ideas from one and bake them into the other (and vice versa). Microsoft says their strategy is the Windows Everywhere convergence, and stitch…
> Apple emphasizes that iOS and OSX fundamentally different platforms and will stay so, and says they're borrowing relevant ideas from one and bake them into the other (and vice versa). I agree. But I think you think that this mentality is set in stone, just as console gaming must have a standard controller , or personal computing must have a physical keyboard. Touch is the marvel of today. Voice may be the marvel of…
> But I think you think that ...
I don't. I merely restated the current public discourse of each company. This is not a knee-jerk reaction, because it's not a reaction at all, merely a summary.
Re: Windows 8 Consumer Preview released.
#124I hope you like IE10; It's been a lot of work for a lot of people to make it happen. If you don't, please do not fail to voice your concerns. Thanks, and enjoy!
What about IE10 for Windows 7?
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry, I don't get what everyone is on about. The first thing a power user will do is to go to the old-desktop and stay there, basically not interacting with metro at all. There is no point, it's about as useful as the winkey+tab is on Vista/W7. "Cool" but useless for real work. And there seems to have been numerous improvements to the windows experience (outside metro), the ability to pause file-copying etc. pro…
The first thing a power user will do is to go to the old-desktop and stay there, basically not interacting with metro at all. There is no point, it's about as useful as the winkey+tab is on Vista/W7. I don't know if you're trying to troll or you're just incredibly short-sighted, but I'll bite. Windows 8 is clearly designed as a hybrid OS, in the same vein that Ubuntu on Android is, even if Microsoft's marketing team…
The idea of a single device that does both mobile and desktop work well is a nice idea, but in practice the few attempts at this have failed, mainly at the hardware level. See the Motorola Atrix, previous Windows Tablet Laptops, etc.
If Microsoft was serious about building this as the future computing experience, they should have built the hardware and controlled both the hardware and software. But then they'd be no different from Apple and they'd alienate their hardware partners.
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#126Just tried it - it's pretty much as I expected... awesome! It's like Windows 7, only more polished. Metro UI is quite cool, but you can spend most your time in the desktop mode if you wish (you'll have to use Metro to search for stuff and open apps). One big drawback is that my favorite tool, Dexpot (virtual desktops manager) does not work - I hope it's not because they removed VD support, that would seriously suck..…
You have to switch to Metro mode to open regular apps? That's... well, I'm speechless.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they should clearly separate tablet and desktop interfaces and switch between them based on context (like what Canonical is planning to do with their "Ubuntu for Android"). That is: you get only a classic desktop (+ windowed Metro apps) when your slate is attached to a docking station and you only get the tablet interface otherwise. And then provide a switch within Control Panel to get the hybrid experience,…
Right now ARM tablets only have the Metro interface period -- there is no desktop interface installed at all. Only PC's have both interfaces.
I have played with a Windows 8 tablet at that had a fully functional desktop interface, looked just like Win 7 desktop.
...and I'm pretty sure it was an ARM
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#128I hope you like IE10; It's been a lot of work for a lot of people to make it happen. If you don't, please do not fail to voice your concerns. Thanks, and enjoy!
What about IE10 for Windows 7?
It's coming. You don't have to take my word for it, the official word says exactly that:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/11/29/html5-for-appl...
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right now ARM tablets only have the Metro interface period -- there is no desktop interface installed at all. Only PC's have both interfaces.
I have played with a Windows 8 tablet at that had a fully functional desktop interface, looked just like Win 7 desktop. ...and I'm pretty sure it was an ARM
Holy crap, it's even more confusing than I thought:
http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/win...
"You will get the traditional desktop with Windows 8 on ARM - but you won't be able to put third-party apps on it.
That's because all the third-party apps developed for ARM-based Windows 8 devices will be for the new Metro interface."
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Your theory is ridiculous. The Xbox 360 was a major success. The Zune failed because people didn't like it. Not because it's a Microsoft product. Same goes for Windows Phone 7, it is failing because people don't like it. Now whether it's a better product or not is a subjective debate that isn't worth having, IMHO (better for whom?) But to say that they failed because of the Microsoft stigma is absurd.
"Same goes for Windows Phone 7, it is failing because people don't like it." It's been out for a little over a year in a crowded marketplace. Microsoft's strategy is long term - there is little evidence to the contrary and their history is of taking such an approach (easier when the founder and CEO each hold more stock than any other shareholder). Windows Phone is targeted far more broadly than the competition - from…
> It's been out for a little over a year in a crowded marketplace.
It's been out for 16 months. In that same time both Android and iOS had posted much better sales. Furthermore Android tablets have been out for a shorter time and have sold more units.
> Windows Phone is targeted far more broadly than the competition - from the 4G smart phones of Europe to the data planless feature phones of Zambia.
And Android isn't? Get real.