An open-source mouse and trackpad utility for Mac

Post by _ZeD_ » Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 3:46 AM UTC

firecall wrote: post #120

Unpopular opinion, but I like the Magic Mouse and Magic Keyboard! I try other Mouses but always return to the Apple products. Trying to get other Mouses to have the same acceleration and tracking as you he Magic Mouse eludes me! The thing with the Magic Mouse is the touch sensor on top! Being able to swipe and scroll horizontally and vertically is so ingrained that I miss it when switching. Adding a TouchID sensor to…

Post by eviks » Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 4:09 AM UTC

ktosobcy wrote: post #100

thesuitonym wrote: post #40

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Not the OP, but for one thing, natural scrolling is just an awful idea for mouse users, it was designed for touch screens, and translates pretty well to trackpads (Although it broke with over a decade of user experience), but it's completely unnatural on a mouse. Unfortunately, if you're a user who switches between a mouse and the trackpad, Mac OS only let's you pick one.

Why would you need a mouse when using macOS trackpads? Before switching to MBP (about 10 years ago) I couldn't fathom using trackpad but then after a couple of days of usage I was so hooked up and it _felt_ so natural than I can't imagine using mouse nowadays...

Post by eviks » Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 4:24 AM UTC

Toutouxc wrote: post #83

Pesthuf wrote: post #38

Apple's idea of "natural scrolling direction" is insane. Scrolling with a touchpad and scrolling with with a mouse wheel are simply different things - the natural direction is simply different for both.

> natural direction is simply different for both That’s 100 % subjective. There’s not a single reason why sliding your finger on a mechanical movable surface should behave differently than sliding it on a touch sensitive surface. You’re used to it behaving differently and that’s fine, but I prefer to have the same behavior for both and neither of us is right or wrong.

Post by rendaw » Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 4:48 AM UTC

arghwhat wrote: post #64

Toutouxc wrote: post #61

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> natural scrolling is just an awful idea for mouse IMO there’s no objective reason why. Natural scrolling is not what a lot of people are used to with a mouse, but it’s perfectly usable and even more consistent if you’re using the Magic Mouse, which uses a touch surface instead of a mechanical wheel. I, for example, always make my Windows and Linux machine use natural scrolling like I’m used to from my Mac and my li…

Unlike for touch devices, it is no better or worse - but as scroll wheel operation already is incredibly well established, most already have an intuitive assumption of behavior and switching forcing the user to switch only annoys them. It is even part of our language: you "scroll down".

Post by Toutouxc » Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 5:11 AM UTC

eviks wrote: post #125

Toutouxc wrote: post #83

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> natural direction is simply different for both That’s 100 % subjective. There’s not a single reason why sliding your finger on a mechanical movable surface should behave differently than sliding it on a touch sensitive surface. You’re used to it behaving differently and that’s fine, but I prefer to have the same behavior for both and neither of us is right or wrong.

But of course there is a reason- wheel is mentally mapped to the windows' scroll bar Touch pad is mentally mapped to the view/document like on a phone Calling it subjective doesn't eliminate it