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The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by clarge1120 »

Loughla wrote: post #41
fullshark wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And all the talk about "diversity" and "diversity of opinions" being cherished is nonsense, they want a hivemind singularly focused on executing leadership's various whims.

I think that really is super dependent on your workplace, and probably your field. In higher education, I can tell you, they do not value diversity of opinion, but they get it in spades. Every decision is questioned, argued, analyzed, and beat to death. Leadership hates it, but I love it. It's one of the closest environments to that 'value diversity of opinion' statement that I've ever been a part of.

Diversity of opinion is allowed, but not diversity of worldview. If a dissenting worldview is expressed it is quickly removed from the discussion and the dissenter is eliminated.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by gilmore606 »

JohnFen wrote: post #112
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #102

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Because their “endeavor” becomes the benchmark for other employees to replicate, leading to a race to the bottom.

I guess that I'm weird. It never occurred to me to measure my performance in contrast to my coworkers!

It definitely occurs to your manager.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by lucas_membrane »

paxys wrote: post #3

There comes a time in everyone's career when they realize that the "emergency situation" they are in never really ends. There is always a fire to put out. There is always a P0 bug that will sink the entire company if not fixed. There is always a release that absolutely cannot be delayed for any reason, and everyone must work nights and weekends to get it out. The best you can do is learn to tune out management bullsh…

I realized it that the emergency was a gimmick whan they started wanting me to schedule a few extended trips, 11,000 miles flying in coach each way, to train my replacements.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by namaria »

robertlagrant wrote: post #120
namaria wrote: post #117

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If you believe soviet style communist dictatorship is the only alternative to the current state of capitalistic exploitation in the West, propaganda already defeated you as a force for change.

Please stop talking like this. You're not in a crusade against a monolithic force. You're raging against a billion individuals playing, generally speaking, within the rules that governments set for them.

You reach for false dichotomies very easily. You may not like what I'm saying but don't ask me to shut up. Why do you immediately denounced me as being in a quixotesque saga? What are you afraid of thinking?

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by JohnFen »

gilmore606 wrote: post #122
JohnFen wrote: post #112

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I guess that I'm weird. It never occurred to me to measure my performance in contrast to my coworkers!

It definitely occurs to your manager.

Maybe. If so, it isn't something that matters to me, though. I'm not competing with my teammates.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by pseudalopex »

solarmist wrote: post #113
LouisSayers wrote: post #77

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I don't think you can really have a generic "this is why you're burnt out" or "that's not real burn out => look over here!". There could be many reasons why someone is in a burnt out state - from lack of control, to being over-worked, being constantly over stimulated, emotional trauma or any number of other reasons. It's something unique to the individual and is not always obvious.

I think they’re pointing out that if you feel like what you’re doing really matters then burn out doesn’t happen. Assuming there aren’t factors outside work. I strongly believe burnout is a for of depression.

> I think they’re pointing out that if you feel like what you’re doing really matters then burn out doesn’t happen.

I think the response pointed out this is false.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by LegitShady »

gitgud wrote: post #57
fullshark wrote: post #4

Don't know if this person worked at FB, but FB literally has its walls covered in propaganda posters, designed to "inspire" but I find them to be disturbing. https://www.businessinsider.com/facebooks-propaganda-posters...

Not as bad as I imagined, the Theranos wall is worse I think. > ”Do or do not, there is no try” https://makersplace.com/product/yoda-quote-theranos-headquar...

“Do not, but fake it until you get indicted”

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by drewr »

It's unfortunate and ironic that Agile's legacy now apparently includes burn-out, when it specifically was designed to prevent it:

"Agile processes promote sustainable development. The sponsors, developers, and users should be able to maintain a constant pace indefinitely."

https://agilemanifesto.org/principles.html

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by drewcoo »

kneebonian wrote: post #78
jghn wrote: post #7

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This was an eye opening moment when it happened to me. Almost nothing has the impact it purports to have. Percentage-wise, very few things are the emergency/fire that people make them out to be, at least in the grand scheme of things. I think part of it is that people get too wrapped up in their local world and don't see the big picture. For instance "If we don't get this widget added to the thingamabob in the next 3…

I'm in this stage right now. I'm being moved from an engineering to being trained for an "architect" role, and it sucks. I look at my todo list and most of it involves emailing somebody about something, or preparing a presentation for some council. It feels like I can't actually do anything. Like when I was an engineer, boom move get things done produce actual results, something would be deployed and value would be d…

I don't know your team, so I don't know the skills/views/dynamics, but is there a way to cut through red tape?

Do all of the meetings/emails have to happen serially and in that order? If so, why?

Maybe look up what Amazon does with its 2-pagers and 6-pagers. See if you can do something similar where you are.

If it's really such a simple solution and that's obvious early, can you propose the obvious solution when you see it and get reactions?

If you're the only architect, you may have to define some of this stuff and make your changes part of the corporate culture.

If you have any PM buddies (whichever type of P), ask them for advice. A lot of this is their bread and butter, and if they already know your org, they'll have special insights.

Re: The hustle never ends and I'm so over it

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Post by cybersandwich »

parpfish wrote: post #14
jghn wrote: post #7

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This was an eye opening moment when it happened to me. Almost nothing has the impact it purports to have. Percentage-wise, very few things are the emergency/fire that people make them out to be, at least in the grand scheme of things. I think part of it is that people get too wrapped up in their local world and don't see the big picture. For instance "If we don't get this widget added to the thingamabob in the next 3…

not everybody gets sucked into firefighting to 'save the company'. if the fire started due to something you helped create and you have even a smidgen of impostor syndrome, fighting fires is about about saving yourself and cleaning up the messes you've made. the only way to prevent this is to build a team with a strong sense of collective ownership/responsibility and a healthy attitude towards mistakes.

One of the biggest "fire fighters" I ever worked with was a serial arsonist.

She created these cluster fcks and then would throw out her shoulder patting herself on the back for putting it out.

She was in a constant state of panic. It was exhausting to watch her work.

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